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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #150 on: April 14, 2013, 10:48:58 PM »

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« Reply #151 on: April 14, 2013, 10:49:12 PM »

Maduros 50.66%
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« Reply #152 on: April 14, 2013, 10:49:53 PM »

Will Capriles concede?
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« Reply #153 on: April 14, 2013, 10:50:38 PM »

Disgusting people.
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« Reply #154 on: April 14, 2013, 10:51:20 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.
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« Reply #155 on: April 14, 2013, 10:51:44 PM »


Who exactly?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #156 on: April 14, 2013, 10:52:17 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2013, 10:55:41 PM by Californian Tony »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fight.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.
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« Reply #157 on: April 14, 2013, 10:52:53 PM »


Uh...the people that "run" things.
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« Reply #158 on: April 14, 2013, 10:53:07 PM »

Capriles is about to address the nation, per his official twitter
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« Reply #159 on: April 14, 2013, 10:56:05 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?
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« Reply #160 on: April 14, 2013, 10:57:04 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.
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« Reply #161 on: April 14, 2013, 10:57:42 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

Leave. Now.
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« Reply #162 on: April 14, 2013, 11:01:00 PM »

My ass. Authoritarian as Chavez was, his elections were at least reasonably legitimate. I hope Capriles and the entire country fight this disgrace of democracy. And Maduro? Just the tyrannical liar I thought he was.
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« Reply #163 on: April 14, 2013, 11:01:24 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.

Well, I guess the comparison was unfair to Venezuela.
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« Reply #164 on: April 14, 2013, 11:02:21 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.

Well, I guess the comparison was unfair to Venezuela.

And to the horse.
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« Reply #165 on: April 14, 2013, 11:03:27 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.

Well, I guess the comparison was unfair to Venezuela.

And here I thought you were an adult with decency.
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« Reply #166 on: April 14, 2013, 11:03:53 PM »

My ass. Authoritarian as Chavez was, his elections were at least reasonably legitimate. I hope Capriles and the entire country fight this disgrace of democracy. And Maduro? Just the tyrannical liar I thought he was.

Tyrannical? Don't exaggerate. He is a non-entity. His tyrany won't likely extend to more than the dinner menu choice at the Miraflores - and that, when no important guests are expected.
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« Reply #167 on: April 14, 2013, 11:07:57 PM »

Where is this evidence that the election was tinkered with or illegitimate? Because the results are counter to rumors on twitter? This has been the M.O. of the right in Venezuela for a while. Use the biased media, with Western support, to paint a picture of huge support for the opposition and then cry "stolen!" when the results go against them yet again. Come on.
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« Reply #168 on: April 14, 2013, 11:08:38 PM »

Well, assuming Capriles accepts it, I think we should start taking bets on how long El Pajarito survives. Not that I expect his replacement to be any better - unless it is Diosdado (not very likely), it is going to be some proper Bolivarian oficer.
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« Reply #169 on: April 14, 2013, 11:11:06 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.

Well, I guess the comparison was unfair to Venezuela.

And here I thought you were an adult with decency.

Florida 2000 was clearly stolen. The verdict is still out on this.
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« Reply #170 on: April 14, 2013, 11:12:07 PM »

Where is this evidence that the election was tinkered with or illegitimate? Because the results are counter to rumors on twitter? This has been the M.O. of the right in Venezuela for a while. Use the biased media, with Western support, to paint a picture of huge support for the opposition and then cry "stolen!" when the results go against them yet again. Come on.

The problem w/ getting evidence is that to properly document it one would have to go through Chavista courts.

BTW, up until now, at least, the opposition has formally recognized every Chavez victory. The "stolen" claims were never made by responsible players. Even though, of course, the government has always had the full machinery at its disposal, that has made elections anything but free and fair.   
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« Reply #171 on: April 14, 2013, 11:13:18 PM »

Where is this evidence that the election was tinkered with or illegitimate?

Don't be naive. Chavez himself had a history of election tinkering, and Maduro is demonstrably far worse than Chavez ever was, in every aspect. He pulled these figures out of his ass.

I hate to compare this any further to the example the chucklehead above me is using - because he's using it purely as a strawman for the sake of being an asshole - but your attitude toward this is uncomfortably reminiscent of the Republicans when George Bush stole his election.
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« Reply #172 on: April 14, 2013, 11:13:45 PM »


This is as clear to everyone as that you have hoofs on all four of your feet.
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« Reply #173 on: April 14, 2013, 11:14:21 PM »


This is as clear to everyone as that you have hoofs on all four of your feet.

What's the point of even talking about the possibility of stolen elections with people who won't admit that?
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« Reply #174 on: April 14, 2013, 11:14:37 PM »

Given how close this is, this may turn out nasty.

I sure hope Capriles doesn't go down without a fact.

Until today, Venezuela was a flawed democracy. Now it's officially become a sham democracy.

Like Florida 2000?

In exactly the same way that you are like a Przewalski horse.

Well, I guess the comparison was unfair to Venezuela.

And here I thought you were an adult with decency.

And here I thought everyone was familiar with jfern. You apparently are not.
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