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« Reply #125 on: April 14, 2013, 10:16:01 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on April 14, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
The military has made clear where their allegiances lie. Chavez spent a few hours with them before conceding '07, but that was Chavez and the presidency wasn't on the line.

Allegiances is one thing, a de facto coup is another. And there is no Chavez there: are they willing to go that far for El Pajarito Maduro?
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« Reply #126 on: April 14, 2013, 10:16:06 PM »
More reports that CNE is refusing to acknowledge the results, apparently the military brass has convened.
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« Reply #127 on: April 14, 2013, 10:17:56 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on April 14, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
More reports that CNE is refusing to acknowledge the results, apparently the military brass has convened.

Where are these reports coming from?
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« Reply #128 on: April 14, 2013, 10:19:18 PM »
All from Twitter and CaracasChronicles.
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« Reply #129 on: April 14, 2013, 10:24:35 PM »
If they are actually refusing to publish the results, it means they are clear enough that no tinkering was possible. Wow.
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« Reply #130 on: April 14, 2013, 10:26:20 PM »
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If they are actually refusing to publish the results, it means they are clear enough that no tinkering was possible. Wow.

Well, or else they are doing the tinkering right now.
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« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2013, 10:27:10 PM »
This is why they should be reporting the results LIVE. That way we wouldn´t be guessing. It is much easier to tinker in the dark.
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« Reply #132 on: April 14, 2013, 10:29:28 PM »
I don't think tinkering would take so much time, though. After all, all you have to do is uniformly take votes away from one candidate in each precinct and give them to the other.
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« Reply #133 on: April 14, 2013, 10:30:53 PM »
According to an article on ABC, Maduro and Capriles have been engaged in a Twitter war for the past hour.

I need someone to confirm this so I can die of laughter.
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« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2013, 10:32:00 PM »
Apparently everything on hold till 4 AM Eastern, dunno if that's true. If so, then Capriles definitely won in the legitimate count.
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« Reply #135 on: April 14, 2013, 10:33:22 PM »
Quote from: Californian Tony on April 14, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
I don't think tinkering would take so much time, though. After all, all you have to do is uniformly take votes away from one candidate in each precinct and give them to the other.

Hard to do that - it is not such a hopeless system. There ARE actual protections.
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« Reply #136 on: April 14, 2013, 10:34:54 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on April 14, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
Apparently everything on hold till 4 AM Eastern, dunno if that's true. If so, then Capriles definitely won in the legitimate count.

They would have, at least, told this to the journalists, one would think. The Globovision and El Universal still seem to be waiting.
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« Reply #137 on: April 14, 2013, 10:36:36 PM »
From AP: Capriles is meeting with military brass, ditto Interior Minister. We know what this means.
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« Reply #138 on: April 14, 2013, 10:37:58 PM »
Well, I guess that settles whose side the military is taking. It appears Maduro has nothing left.
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« Reply #139 on: April 14, 2013, 10:38:23 PM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on April 14, 2013, 10:36:36 PM
From AP: Capriles is meeting with military brass, ditto Interior Minister. We know what this means.

We will know, if he comes out of that meeting.
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« Reply #140 on: April 14, 2013, 10:41:00 PM »
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Quote from: RogueBeaver on April 14, 2013, 10:36:36 PM
From AP: Capriles is meeting with military brass, ditto Interior Minister. We know what this means.

We will know, if he comes out of that meeting.

"In front of the military officers, Capriles expressed his dismay of having lost the election yet again, and suddenly committed suicide by shooting himself in the back 15 times."
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« Reply #141 on: April 14, 2013, 10:42:26 PM »
CNE members are going to the announcement spot.
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« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2013, 10:43:43 PM »
*Bites nails*
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« Reply #143 on: April 14, 2013, 10:44:14 PM »
Is there a live stream somewhere?
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« Reply #144 on: April 14, 2013, 10:45:20 PM »
www.eluniversal.com
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« Reply #145 on: April 14, 2013, 10:47:32 PM »
They're speaking now. Dunno what they're saying, I don't speak Spanish.
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« Reply #146 on: April 14, 2013, 10:47:39 PM »
They announced Maduro win w- 50.6% vs. 49.1% for Capriles.
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« Reply #147 on: April 14, 2013, 10:48:31 PM »
sh**t.
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« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2013, 10:48:38 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2013, 10:48:41 PM »
They did tinker enough.
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