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« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2013, 07:29:36 PM »

results ETA: 1 hour
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« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2013, 07:34:22 PM »

Opposition saying weird stuff on Twitter like "we know what you know" (H/T CaracasChronicles) but I'm still predicting a single digit Maduro win.
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« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2013, 07:44:26 PM »

Capriles warns of plan to alter Venezuela vote results
April 15 (AFP) -- Venezuela's opposition candidate Henrique Capriles on Sunday warned there was a plan to alter the results in the special election to succeed late president Hugo Chavez.
"We alert the country and the world of the intention to change the choice expressed by the people," Capriles wrote on Twitter after polls began to close in his race against acting President Nicolas Maduro.
Capriles, who lost to Chavez by 11 points in the October presidential election, called on National Electoral Council president Tibisay Lucena to close all polling stations, saying there were attempts to let people vote in places that had already closed.
Vice President Jorge Arreaza swiftly condemned Capriles, telling him on state-run television to "be very careful."
"This is unheard of. Hopefully they hacked Capriles' Twitter account like President Nicolas Maduro was hacked," he said after the account of Chavez's political heir was taken over by hackers.
After voting in the afternoon, Capriles said he wanted a "true democracy" in Venezuela and accused the government of pressuring civil servants to vote for Maduro.
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« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2013, 08:03:18 PM »

Opposition quick count says it's razor-thin, will be a very long night.
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« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2013, 08:13:32 PM »

This is going to be very close. However, when it is so close, the government should be able to massage it enough, no matter what. Unless, of course, they are even more incompetent than I expect them to be.
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« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2013, 08:15:27 PM »

It depends what happens. Chavez sounded his inner circle and the military out before acknowledging his temporary defeat in 2007, I don't know what would happen here. Maduro is at best primus inter pares in Chavezland.
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« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2013, 08:31:59 PM »

This is apparently the opposition's official vote count:

Capriles 7.875.846
Maduro 6.443.874
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« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2013, 08:34:07 PM »

This is apparently the opposition's official vote count:

Capriles 7.875.846
Maduro 6.443.874

where from?

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« Reply #83 on: April 14, 2013, 08:34:55 PM »

Turnout's down, but that looks like 5-7 points to me. Too wide for mere massaging. BTW, the winner is apparently supposed to take the oath in 3 days.
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« Reply #84 on: April 14, 2013, 08:35:20 PM »

This is apparently the opposition's official vote count:

Capriles 7.875.846
Maduro 6.443.874

where from?



Twitter or CaracasChronicles, I'm guessing.

Also: There are pix on Twitter of uniformed National Guard carrying ballot boxes... I think we can assume they aren't being secured. At least not secured in our sense of the term.
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« Reply #85 on: April 14, 2013, 08:37:40 PM »

92% counted. Gulp.
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« Reply #86 on: April 14, 2013, 08:43:09 PM »

I hate this way of doing it. They should be publishing the results precinct by precinct as they come.
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« Reply #87 on: April 14, 2013, 08:44:57 PM »

They do, but not for public consumption. Gotta know where to add and subtract.
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« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2013, 08:48:43 PM »

They do, but not for public consumption. Gotta know where to add and subtract.

CNE?
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« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2013, 08:50:21 PM »

In any case, this is not how this should be done.
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« Reply #90 on: April 14, 2013, 08:52:16 PM »

Twitter saying that each man has won 4 or 5 states. Caprilesgagnado trending as well. Predictions that Capriles will win.
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« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2013, 08:59:34 PM »

This is apparently the opposition's official vote count:

Capriles 7.875.846
Maduro 6.443.874

where from?



Twitter, came from some sort of opposition figure who's been (probably illegally?) posting results by region as they come in (I assume either the opposition gets access to CNE's count or it's from their own electoral monitors who are, like last time, at every precinct in the country).
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« Reply #92 on: April 14, 2013, 09:00:29 PM »

Wow, I wasn't hoping for it to be so close. Let's hope the chavist clique doesn't manage to rig this.
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« Reply #93 on: April 14, 2013, 09:03:57 PM »

Wow, I wasn't hoping for it to be so close. Let's hope the chavist clique doesn't manage to rig this.

I'm seeing a 51.2-46.6 number thrown around a lot. Lots of people claiming Capriles has won and silence from the Maduro camp... but as I said, will believe it only if officially confirmed.
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« Reply #94 on: April 14, 2013, 09:07:15 PM »

For the record, CNE officially has to wait until there's an "irreversible trend" in the results before they're publicly released. The fact that they've waited this long and overshot their own time estimates so far either means that:

A) it's extremely close, or
B) Capriles has a lead and they don't know what to do

(or, I guess, C, maybe they just suddenly started to suck at counting votes efficiently since the last election)
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« Reply #95 on: April 14, 2013, 09:09:36 PM »

Option B) would not surprise me at all... But of course it could really be that close.
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« Reply #96 on: April 14, 2013, 09:09:47 PM »

They'll be long meetings in Miraflores with all the phone lines burning up. Maduro said publicly he'd accept the result, but obviously his word means nothing and he isn't in full control of ChavezWorld. Chavez consulted everyone in 2007 before acknowledging defeat, not till late at night IIRC.
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« Reply #97 on: April 14, 2013, 09:10:09 PM »

Remember: last time it took them till about 10 PM. It is 9:40 in Caracas now.
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« Reply #98 on: April 14, 2013, 09:10:59 PM »

For the record, CNE officially has to wait until there's an "irreversible trend" in the results before they're publicly released. The fact that they've waited this long and overshot their own time estimates so far either means that:

A) it's extremely close, or
B) Capriles has a lead and they don't know what to do

(or, I guess, C, maybe they just suddenly started to suck at counting votes efficiently since the last election)

The voting was by all accounts brisk and efficient today, no lines. So C seems a bit less plausible, though still a possibility.
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« Reply #99 on: April 14, 2013, 09:12:47 PM »

98% of the acts transmitted, apparently.
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