Urban GOP enclaves

[Sol]

Most cities are pretty naturally Democratic. But there are some places with significant Republican areas.

What causes areas like these? Where are some of the Urban GOP areas located? I'm already aware of South Brooklyn, but what are some other conservative urban areas, and why are they that way?

[JerryArkansas]

North West Arkansas, a conservative bastion.

[Miles]

Tulsa, OK
Colorado Springs, CO
Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville, NC
Springfield, MO
Tyler/Longview, TX
Lubbock, TX
Pensacola, FL
Monroe, LA
Provo, UT
Spartanburg/Greenville, SC

[krazen1211]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

[Sol]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

That's probably the case with a lot of the Southern cities Miles mentioned, but in the rest of the country, Urban whites are still mostly democratic.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

...implying that urban areas usually don't have white liberals is deserving of no reply beyond

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

Don't you live in Philadelphia?

[bedstuy]

I'm already aware of South Brooklyn

Do you mean Southern Brooklyn?  South Brooklyn is about 90%+ Democrat fairly consistently.  Southern Brooklyn has some GOP enclaves however.   

In NYC, GOP areas tends to be populated by fundamentalist Jews or middle class Italians. 

[Sol]

I'm already aware of South Brooklyn

Do you mean Southern Brooklyn?  South Brooklyn is about 90%+ Democrat fairly consistently.  Southern Brooklyn has some GOP enclaves however.   

In NYC, GOP areas tends to be populated by fundamentalist Jews or middle class Italians. 

Yeah, I did mean Southern Brooklyn. I guess I'm just not that great in my NYC geography.

[nclib]

Most of the cities Miles mentioned (as well as many high populated GOP areas) aren't really urban. There's also the Cuban areas in/near Miami. IIRC, a McCain CD State House district can be drawn within Philly, not sure where else this can be done with being entirely in a urban area.

[ag]

Most of the cities Miles mentioned (as well as many high populated GOP areas) aren't really urban. There's also the Cuban areas in/near Miami. IIRC, a McCain CD can be drawn within Philly, not sure where else this can be done with being entirely in a urban area.

McCain CD in Philadelphia? Either you have a very broad view of Philadelphia, or a very small CD (as in, I don't know, 100,000 people, may be 150,000). Philadelphia without suburbs is well over 80% Dem - which exactly are the areas you'd include?

[Mr.Phips]

Most of the cities Miles mentioned (as well as many high populated GOP areas) aren't really urban. There's also the Cuban areas in/near Miami. IIRC, a McCain CD can be drawn within Philly, not sure where else this can be done with being entirely in a urban area.

Republicans couldnt even create a McCain statehouse district in Philly.  The lowest percentage there is 53% Obama(Speaker Perzel's old seat) and they had make it look like a question mark to even get the Democratic percentage that low. 

[Benj]

I'm already aware of South Brooklyn

Do you mean Southern Brooklyn?  South Brooklyn is about 90%+ Democrat fairly consistently.  Southern Brooklyn has some GOP enclaves however.    

In NYC, GOP areas tends to be populated by fundamentalist Jews or middle class Italians.  

Yeah, I did mean Southern Brooklyn. I guess I'm just not that great in my NYC geography.

Don't feel embarrassed. Many locals have started calling Southern Brooklyn "South Brooklyn". "South Brooklyn" as a name for Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens/Red Hook is well on its way out.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

East Memphis, around 100,000 people - 60/40 McCain

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

nclib's probably referring to a McCain STATE House district. And State House districts are rather small in Pennsylvania.

[nclib]

Most of the cities Miles mentioned (as well as many high populated GOP areas) aren't really urban. There's also the Cuban areas in/near Miami. IIRC, a McCain CD can be drawn within Philly, not sure where else this can be done with being entirely in a urban area.

McCain CD in Philadelphia? Either you have a very broad view of Philadelphia, or a very small CD (as in, I don't know, 100,000 people, may be 150,000). Philadelphia without suburbs is well over 80% Dem - which exactly are the areas you'd include?

I was mistaken. I must have been thinking of a state House district that a member had drawn. It makes sense now that an entirely Philly McCain CD would be impossible. I'm pretty sure however that a McCain CD can be drawn in (or mainly in) Houston, Dallas, and/or San Antonio, any ideas where else?

[bedstuy]

Most of the cities Miles mentioned (as well as many high populated GOP areas) aren't really urban. There's also the Cuban areas in/near Miami. IIRC, a McCain CD can be drawn within Philly, not sure where else this can be done with being entirely in a urban area.

McCain CD in Philadelphia? Either you have a very broad view of Philadelphia, or a very small CD (as in, I don't know, 100,000 people, may be 150,000). Philadelphia without suburbs is well over 80% Dem - which exactly are the areas you'd include?

I was mistaken. I must have been thinking of a state House district that a member had drawn. It makes sense now that an entirely Philly McCain CD would be impossible. I'm pretty sure however that a McCain CD can be drawn in (or mainly in) Houston, Dallas, and/or San Antonio, any ideas where else?

Phoenix (the northern part of Phoenix). 

[traininthedistance]

I'm already aware of South Brooklyn

Do you mean Southern Brooklyn?  South Brooklyn is about 90%+ Democrat fairly consistently.  Southern Brooklyn has some GOP enclaves however.    

In NYC, GOP areas tends to be populated by fundamentalist Jews or middle class Italians.  

Yeah, I did mean Southern Brooklyn. I guess I'm just not that great in my NYC geography.

Don't feel embarrassed. Many locals have started calling Southern Brooklyn "South Brooklyn". "South Brooklyn" as a name for Cobble Hill/Carroll Gardens/Red Hook is well on its way out.

I feel like calling those areas "South Brooklyn" has been undergoing somewhat of a renaissance lately.  Regardless, it's been a misnomer for well over a century.

[ag]

Actually, I don't think you could do this just w/ Dallas City. Dallas County, of course, is extremely easy. But Dallas City - the best I could do, was 50.5% Obama (about 2,500 lead) - and that was cheating, since I included both the University Park and Highland Park, as well as the part of Dallas outside of Dallas County - though not the non-contiguous parts of Dallas (I am not sure if any of those are inhabited, anyway). I challenge you to do better. Without the non-Dallas enclaves it is outright impossible.

[Vosem]

I'm already aware of South Brooklyn

Do you mean Southern Brooklyn?  South Brooklyn is about 90%+ Democrat fairly consistently.  Southern Brooklyn has some GOP enclaves however.   

In NYC, GOP areas tends to be populated by fundamentalist Jews or middle class Italians. 

And Russians, right?

[ag]

On the other hand, what shouldn't be hard is New York Then, of course, in Staten Island, Republicans are the Island party

[krazen1211]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

That's probably the case with a lot of the Southern cities Miles mentioned, but in the rest of the country, Urban whites are still mostly democratic.

There are some numbers of such voters in cities elsewhere.

See San Diego.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/nov/13/it-was-golden-hill-v-fairbanks-election-day/


Or, say, see Cincinnati.

[krazen1211]

What causes them is simple. Whites live there.

Don't you live in Philadelphia?

Yes. Democrats certainly win Philadelphia whites but they do not get 95% of them.

[Sbane]

That's the entire county, Krazen. Obama likely won whites living in the city.

[krazen1211]

That's the entire county, Krazen. Obama likely won whites living in the city.

Possibly. Nevertheless, the original topic was enclaves. There is quite clearly such an enclave in La Jolla, for example.