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« Reply #225 on: August 02, 2013, 11:44:11 AM »

For UKIP almost more so than for Labour, given circumstances. Wink
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« Reply #226 on: August 02, 2013, 11:53:12 AM »

More of an explanation now than a preview, and the results have exposed some shocking lack of research, but here goes.
So who is this Steve Rush fellow you  failed to research?
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« Reply #227 on: August 02, 2013, 11:57:51 AM »

For UKIP almost more so than for Labour, given circumstances. Wink

The two parties are actually coalition partners (of sorts) on Norfolk CC!
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« Reply #228 on: August 08, 2013, 01:56:31 PM »

Skelton-in-Cleveland; Merton; Swindon; Lowestoft.  This week's Holy Word at
http://blog.englishelections.org.uk/2013/08/by-election-preview-8-august-2013.html
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« Reply #229 on: August 08, 2013, 05:03:53 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2013, 05:48:55 PM by countydurhamboy »

If the Tories lose swindon by-election today the council will go NOC



Edit: But they held on.  Labour Won Waveney, sitting UKIP CC 3rd
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« Reply #230 on: August 08, 2013, 05:49:24 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2013, 04:15:05 AM by ObserverIE »

Waveney, Oulton

Lab 41.2 (+12.4)
Con 30.1 (+3.6)
UKIP 24.6 (+24.6)
Green 2.1 (-5.2)
Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Con 49.6 (+7.0)
Lab 32.0 (+1.2)
UKIP 15.4 (+4.2)
Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lab 72.2 (+21.3)
Con 18.9 (-0.9)
UKIP 6.7 (+6.7)
Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lab 46.1 (-5.1)
UKIP 30.0 (+30.0)
Con 10.9 (-23.9)
Ind 10.5
Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)
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« Reply #231 on: August 09, 2013, 07:18:49 AM »

Skelton is actually quite a good result for Labour, given the circumstances.
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« Reply #232 on: August 09, 2013, 12:09:45 PM »

Waveney, Oulton

Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)

Hmm...
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« Reply #233 on: August 09, 2013, 01:15:54 PM »

Waveney, Oulton

Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)

Hmm...

Win or lose, 2015 will be a victory for all those who've wanted to see the back of the Liberals (even pre-2010).
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« Reply #234 on: August 09, 2013, 03:45:03 PM »

Waveney, Oulton

Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)

Hmm...

Win or lose, 2015 will be a victory for all those who've wanted to see the back of the Liberals (even pre-2010).

Well, possibly not.  I expect they'll have very bad results (as above) in a lot of places but may do OK where they have MPs and/or very good organisation.  I still think holding on to around 30 MPs is plausible.  Certainly I don't expect to have a non-Lib Dem MP in the near future.
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« Reply #235 on: August 10, 2013, 09:27:14 PM »

Waveney, Oulton

Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)

Hmm...

Win or lose, 2015 will be a victory for all those who've wanted to see the back of the Liberals (even pre-2010).

No it won't. Reports of our demise have been exaggerated since I were a boy and will continue to be so.
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« Reply #236 on: August 10, 2013, 10:01:23 PM »

Waveney, Oulton

Lib Dem 1.9 (-4.7)

Swindon, Haydon Wick

Lib Dem 3.0 (-3.7)

Merton, Colliers Wood

Lib Dem 2.2 (-14.0)

Redcar and Cleveland, Skelton

Lib Dem 2.5 (-11.5)

Hmm...

Win or lose, 2015 will be a victory for all those who've wanted to see the back of the Liberals (even pre-2010).

No it won't. Reports of our demise have been exaggerated since I were a boy and will continue to be so.

Oh, sure you'll win more than 150 seats in 2015 and replace Labour as the main opposition to Conservatives due to your excellent record in government.
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« Reply #237 on: August 11, 2013, 09:44:53 AM »

You see, these just as periodical reports also have been exaggerated since I was a boy. (The other type have been around since Clement Attlee was a boy, actually.)

The LDs will survive. This won't be immediately clear after the next elections, but it will be clear by the time they're back in opposition to a Tory government the next time.

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« Reply #238 on: August 13, 2013, 02:24:12 PM »
« Edited: August 13, 2013, 02:26:27 PM by Leftbehind »

I think the Liberals will survive, sadly, but I don't think there was anything inevitable about it. Labour's unwillingness to capitalise/venture into space they've left vacant, and general embrace of New Labour triangulation all but seals their continued existence (beyond perverse to think they'll return as a disaffected leftist home). 

Amazing to see Greens in Merton go from over a third of the vote to not standing in a space of decade.
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« Reply #239 on: August 15, 2013, 02:01:56 PM »

Long trip down memory lane here:

http://blog.englishelections.org.uk/2013/08/by-election-preview-15-august-2013.html
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« Reply #240 on: August 15, 2013, 03:39:18 PM »

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« Reply #241 on: August 15, 2013, 05:16:58 PM »
« Edited: August 16, 2013, 05:27:37 AM by ObserverIE »

Torridge, Shebbear and Langtree

Con 47.2 (-16.0)
UKIP 42.7 (+42.7)
Green 8.1 (+8.1)
Lib DemInd 2.0

(Lib Dems took 36.8 last time)

Hartlepool, Manor House

Lab 56.4 (+8.2)
UKIP 19.9 (+3.4)
Hartlepool First 17.1 (-0.3)
Con 6.5 (+1.7)

Walsall, Aldridge Central and South

Con 49.7 (-0.2)
UKIP 24.4 (+8.3)
Lab 18.6 (-4.3)
Lib Dem 4.5 (-6.6)
Eng Dem 2.9 (+2.9)

West Berkshire, Hungerford

Con 48.4 (-13.2)
Lib Dem 44.8 (+6.4)
Lab 5.1 (+5.1)
UPP 1.7 (+1.7)
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« Reply #242 on: August 15, 2013, 05:28:27 PM »

Good result from the town of the monkey hangers.
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« Reply #243 on: August 15, 2013, 05:30:47 PM »


The bit on said town is fantastic, btw.
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« Reply #244 on: August 15, 2013, 05:31:21 PM »

Lib Dem vote in Devon (even if operating undercover) was atrocious. Some of the county council results in places like North Devon and the Cornish seats this May looked ominous.
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« Reply #245 on: August 15, 2013, 05:36:56 PM »

Well, LibDem success in the West Country has as much to do with them being the obvious choice for a basically 'conservative' protest vote as it does with antediluvian Liberal traditions...
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« Reply #246 on: August 15, 2013, 05:38:01 PM »

I mean, if they were in Australia, these places would vote for the Nationals.
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« Reply #247 on: August 17, 2013, 07:34:51 PM »

Lib Dem vote in Devon (even if operating undercover) was atrocious. Some of the county council results in places like North Devon and the Cornish seats this May looked ominous.

He didn't campaign. After the cock up with the election nomination papers that meant he was down as no description it was felt it wasn't worth the bother. After a couple of other examples in May where this happened for candidates of other parties (ie, they failed to get their party on the ballot paper) I can't exactly blame him.

Not that I'm not saying our results in that part of Devon in particular in May weren't pretty terrible.
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« Reply #248 on: August 17, 2013, 07:46:55 PM »

I mean, if they were in Australia, these places would vote for the Nationals.

Hmm, not quite so sure about that. Devon West and Torridge perhaps as there's no settlements of any real size there and places like St Ives, North Cornwall and Somerton and Frome. But Yeovil, Torbay, Taunton etc, or even the 'two town' Cornwall seats? Surely too 'urban' for an antipodean type National Party to win.  I would think some of the rural seats in Tory Wiltshire and Dorset would be better suited than these.
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« Reply #249 on: August 18, 2013, 05:11:36 AM »


Happy Eater, eh?

5:20 to 7:15
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