Jindal: Out, corporate & income tax. In, increased sales tax.

[RogueBeaver]

Interesting, dunno if this'll be revenue-neutral though.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/01/gov_bobby_jindal_calls_for_eli.html

[justfollowingtheelections]

What a punk.  I would bet it leads to a revenue loss, not to mention less demand as a result of the regressive sales tax.  But hey those job creators need a tax break even if they later say they can't create jobs because no one is buying their products.

[Franzl]

Good way to promote further inequality.

[Sbane]

Ah, the fuck the poor economic plan. I hope Jindal crashes and burns in the 2016 primaries. I would hate for this guy to be the first Indian American nominee, or god forbid, President.

[Donerail]

Opinion of Jindal increased.

[memphis]

Good way to promote further inequality.

I think you're right about the intent, but even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he's trying to get the poors to leave and the richers to come in. And that may happen a very little, but Republicans grossly overestimate the effect that tax codes have on people in the real world. If taxes were that important, there would be very few high earners in NY and CA and many in my home state, which has no income tax on earned income. Instead, you have the opposite. And you have a lot inequality based problems. But that's the South for you.

[afleitch]

Jindal is too camp to be a contender.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

Ah, the fuck the poor economic plan. I hope Jindal crashes and burns in the 2016 primaries. I would hate for this guy to be the first Indian American nominee, or god forbid, President.

Hey, I'd love to see Jindal make it far. It'd give him a national platform and further expose the lunacy behind the GOP's hatred of intellectualism. It's amazing that a man as intelligent and academically accomplished as Bobby has to dumb himself and his policies down just to have a future in his party.

[Mr. Morden]

On a related note, McDonnell just came out with what Dave Weigel calls a "reducto ad absurdum of hippie bashing" plan to eliminate the gas tax in Virginia, and replace it with a tax on alternative fuel vehicles (plus higher sales taxes):

link

[hopper]

Good way to promote further inequality.

I think you're right about the intent, but even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he's trying to get the poors to leave and the richers to come in. And that may happen a very little, but Republicans grossly overestimate the effect that tax codes have on people in the real world. If taxes were that important, there would be very few high earners in NY and CA and many in my home state, which has no income tax on earned income. Instead, you have the opposite. And you have a lot inequality based problems. But that's the South for you.

Republicans overstate effect on tax codes and the Dems understate effect on taxcodes!

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

How is it that businesses are the ones that need the help, since they're making money and the actual people who work for them are not? When times are good for business, times are good for shareholders, not employees. Oh well. At least work Christmas Parties might be a little bit nicer in Louisiana this year.

[GLPman]

"The bottom line is that for too long, Louisiana's workers and small businesses have suffered from having a state tax structure that is too complex and that holds back economic prosperity..."

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't an increased sales tax also hurt economic prosperity?

[memphis]

"The bottom line is that for too long, Louisiana's workers and small businesses have suffered from having a state tax structure that is too complex and that holds back economic prosperity..."

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't an increased sales tax also hurt economic prosperity?

Depends whose economy one want to prosper. Different people have different interests. And I don't understand why nobody is willing to point that out. We're not all the same boat. Mitt Romney wouldn't have me in the same ocean as his yacht.

[BluegrassBlueVote]

On a related note, McDonnell just came out with what Dave Weigel calls a "reducto ad absurdum of hippie bashing" plan to eliminate the gas tax in Virginia, and replace it with a tax on alternative fuel vehicles (plus higher sales taxes):

link

That is absolutely terrible.

[Sbane]

On a related note, McDonnell just came out with what Dave Weigel calls a "reducto ad absurdum of hippie bashing" plan to eliminate the gas tax in Virginia, and replace it with a tax on alternative fuel vehicles (plus higher sales taxes):

link

That is absolutely terrible.

It's as if the different Republican 2016 hopefuls are trying to outdo each other in the evil olympics.

[greenforest32]

On a related note, McDonnell just came out with what Dave Weigel calls a "reducto ad absurdum of hippie bashing" plan to eliminate the gas tax in Virginia, and replace it with a tax on alternative fuel vehicles (plus higher sales taxes):

link

That is absolutely terrible.

It's as if the different Republican 2016 hopefuls are trying to outdo each other in the evil olympics.

Don't forget 'straight talking' Christie: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/02/231147/christie-medicaid-recipients-rich/

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[memphis]

De facto, Medicaid is not a program to give the working poor healthcare. It is for extremely disabled people who require extremely expensive nursing homes.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I don't understand how anyone could see these proposals (Jindal's axing of the income tax in favor of a higher national sales tax, McDonnell's bizarrely macho-ish "alternative fuels tax", or Christie's proposals of effectively gutting Medicaid) as anything but childish, ignorant, pointlessly contrary, or just outright evil.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I thought this thread was going to be about Jindal dropping out.

[memphis]

McDonnell is just trying to protect big oil from competition. It's not here yet, but there may come a day when alternative fuel vehicles make sense for the mainstream consumer. Autos/Oil is a funny business.  It's dependent on demand from the masses rather than the owners. Even Mitt Romney's wife only has twice as many cars as the avergae consumer. From the standpoint of the GOP, best to nip that technological threat in the bud. All the climate change in the world isn't going to get people to change their behavior. A cheaper ride will though.

[King]

VATs do interest me.  It is incredibly efficient compared to income tax.  Perhaps there is a way to keep it progressive, like if it was done in combination with a simple income tax. 

For example:

Income tax brackets would be up shifted 50k: 0% for first $50,000, 10% for 50,001-58,700, etc., etc.

Then, projected loss of revenue would be matched up with a projected equal gain in revenue for % VAT.

The rich still pay more taxes.  We would also make EBT purchases tax exempt

[greenforest32]

De facto, Medicaid is not a program to give the working poor healthcare. It is for extremely disabled people who require extremely expensive nursing homes.

Well the ACA's Medicaid expansion was supposed to have made it available to the working poor by replacing the eligibility limits with a single one based on income (133% of the federal poverty level) which among other things would mean childless adults would finally be eligible. Then SCOTUS made the expansion optional for states back in June and we're seeing the consequences of that already. But yeah, like most pots of money made available to private providers, the free market finds its way in:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-31/for-profit-nursing-homes-lead-in-overcharging-while-care-suffers.html

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[Zioneer]

Sales tax is the worst possible tax ever. Yes, it provides a lot of revenue, but it hurts the poor more than the rich. Huey Long is rolling in his grave.

[Sbane]

VATs do interest me.  It is incredibly efficient compared to income tax.  Perhaps there is a way to keep it progressive, like if it was done in combination with a simple income tax. 

For example:

Income tax brackets would be up shifted 50k: 0% for first $50,000, 10% for 50,001-58,700, etc., etc.

Then, projected loss of revenue would be matched up with a projected equal gain in revenue for % VAT.

The rich still pay more taxes.  We would also make EBT purchases tax exempt

I think that would still slam the middle class. Maybe if you exempt food and clothing costing less than $30?

[Donerail]

VATs do interest me.  It is incredibly efficient compared to income tax.  Perhaps there is a way to keep it progressive, like if it was done in combination with a simple income tax. 

For example:

Income tax brackets would be up shifted 50k: 0% for first $50,000, 10% for 50,001-58,700, etc., etc.

Then, projected loss of revenue would be matched up with a projected equal gain in revenue for % VAT.

The rich still pay more taxes.  We would also make EBT purchases tax exempt

I think that would still slam the middle class. Maybe if you exempt food and clothing costing less than $30?

Or gave folks a prebate, like the FairTax does.