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« on: January 02, 2013, 03:57:29 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 04:06:00 PM »

Somebody wants to be President.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 04:07:18 PM »

It was awesome to watch. Good job Governor Christie! I see he's looking more to 2013 than to 2016 right.

I did notice he was very careful to stick to the "internal politics" line as opposed to a bias against the region. Shouted at a few reporters about that.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 04:09:58 PM »


Yeah, ripping your own speaker and party is a good way to start, politically Roll Eyes

Of course ripping Congress is always favorable to the masses Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 04:11:23 PM »


Yeah, ripping your own speaker and party is a good way to start, politically Roll Eyes

Of course ripping Congress is always favorable to the masses Smiley

He's not exactly wrong, mind you. But "standing up" to the party elite can't hurt, can it?
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 04:12:11 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2013, 04:17:22 PM by memphis »

Yeah, ripping your own speaker and party is a good way to start, politically Roll Eyes
^^^^^^
This is about wanting to do a good job as gov'r. Who wants to see his state remain in tatters? Although, considering Boehner's position lately, I don't think bashing him hurts Christie with anybody either.
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 04:12:27 PM »


Yeah, ripping your own speaker and party is a good way to start, politically Roll Eyes

Of course ripping Congress is always favorable to the masses Smiley

He's not exactly wrong, mind you. But "standing up" to the party elite can't hurt, can it?

Not with the masses....look at Simi.....he's drooling over this speech, and frankly I can't wait to hear it later on TV Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 04:19:59 PM »

Both Christie and King were very clear in praising Cantor while pummelling Boehner.

Boehner won't last the week as speaker.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 04:35:15 PM »

Both Christie and King were very clear in praising Cantor while pummelling Boehner.

Boehner won't last the week as speaker.

Well I don't know if all of the committee people he tossed off are coming back in the new Congress, but they won't need many more supporters to oust him if they are.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 05:18:16 PM »

If Boehner resigns or loses in a contested race to Cantor, does Christie get credit for administering the death blow? Fairly or not?
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 05:20:36 PM »


Right... because this will help him win over the primary voters.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 05:25:32 PM »

I like to think that even Republican primary voters aren't against providing funding to Sandy victims. Am I overestimating their decency?

(And after warching it, I am quite impressed. Does seem genuine.)
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2013, 05:27:51 PM »


Yeah, ripping your own speaker and party is a good way to start, politically Roll Eyes

Of course ripping Congress is always favorable to the masses Smiley

At this point, being anti-Boehner is probably safer in the GOP than being pro-Boehner with regards to the base.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 05:34:21 PM »

I like to think that even Republican primary voters aren't against providing funding to Sandy victims. Am I overestimating their decency?

(And after warching it, I am quite impressed. Does seem genuine.)

But wouldn't primary voters be against pork spending in a funding package?
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2013, 05:39:32 PM »

Christie and everyone else have every right to be furious that this isn't done. It should have been passed a month ago even when you consider everything else that was going on. That being said, I'm also furious about the disgusting attempt to get totally unrelated projects paid for in this package. Some people really have no shame. Then there are people like Schumer and Gillibrand that are attacking people like Issa for being "against aid for storm victims." That disingenuous attack is why people hate Congress/politics. Being opposed to the pork that they trying to throw in doesn't mean opposition to aid. To ignore that is so very wrong.

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2013, 05:44:37 PM »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2013, 06:04:43 PM »

This is in general a very bad situation for the GOP.  There's a reason why Fox news loved  Leiberman so much. 

If you can get someone in a position of power to say something bad about their own party, thats a very powerfull argument.  "Even Republicans/Democrats admit that X is bad!".  It makes the criticsism of the party rightly or wrongly, seem bipartisan which makes it a very potent line of attack. 

As for the politicians criticising the GOP, as long as their political careers remain within their states they should be fine maybe even better off. Christie is toeing a dangerous line with the base, while opposing Boehnor may be popular right now, Christie is opposing him from the 'wrong' direction'.  Democrats are sure to castigate the GOP over this and I doubt Republicans seeing Christie 'siding' with Democrats will do him any favors.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2013, 06:08:26 PM »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.

Same here. That's what's making this all the more frustrating. I heard from someone else that Cantor didn't offer the amendment but proposed that the bill be open to amendment, allowing the unrelated spending to be inserted separately (with a vote, of course). Even that would have been more tolerable but I'd still be pissed that there'd even be a vote on those projects in the first place. It's disgraceful.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2013, 09:35:39 PM »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.

You rang?
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2013, 10:53:23 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2013, 10:55:33 PM by True Federalist »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.

You rang?

Wrong bill.  That's the Fiscal Cliff measure that was passed.  We're wanting the Sandy relief bill.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »


Right... because this will help him win over the primary voters.

It'll help ensure he gets reelected this November.  If he doesn't do that he'll have as much chance of getting the nomination as an ex-Senator does.  Granted, he looks like a sure thing for reelection now, but if he takes it for granite, he might not be. Ten months is a long time in politics.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2013, 11:03:44 PM »


Right... because this will help him win over the primary voters.

It'll help ensure he gets reelected this November.  If he doesn't do that he'll have as much chance of getting the nomination as an ex-Senator does.  Granted, he looks like a sure thing for reelection now, but if he takes it for granite, he might not be. Ten months is a long time in politics.

Yes, and even if this is all calculated political theater (which I do't think it is), it never hurts to have a geographic base in the primaries. While they obviously don't vote R in the General, the NE states still have a lot of primary delegates.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2013, 11:06:52 PM »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.

You rang?

I was being serious... don't waste my time with that crap.
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2013, 11:57:27 PM »

Granted, he looks like a sure thing for reelection now, but if he takes it for granite, he might not be.

I always thought Christie looked a bit like Fred Flinstone.
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2013, 12:19:23 AM »

Now Schumer is claiming Issa is just making up the pork argument because Cantor supposedly offered an amendment to strip the bill of unrelated spending (which is what should have been done). If that's true, Boehner and Issa have some explaining to do because a vote should have definitely taken place if that amendment was included.

I completely agree.  And I'm having a hard time finding the bill.  None of the stories on this include the bill designation, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it being posted so I can read it.

You rang?

I was being serious... don't waste my time with that crap.

Sorry, I was obviously thinking of something else.

I think this is what you're looking for.
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