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« Reply #225 on: January 12, 2013, 05:05:30 PM »
« edited: January 12, 2013, 09:51:10 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 3rd 1992 8:30

Rodgers: Okay, its 8:30, and we are feeling safe to call Kentucky, and with 80% of votes coming through, we are calling Kentucky for Quayle/Dole.

Anderson: Oh wait, yes Bill, just like we said about the possibility of West Virginia going Democratic, since polls are reporting 70% of votes coming in, we are now calling West Virginia to Gore/Kennedy.

Rodgers: And as with Delaware, we are now calling those three states to the Democratic challenging ticket of Gore/Kennedy. Also, we are calling all of the remaining electoral votes of Maine, to Perot/Stockman. Making the tally: Gore/Kennedy:80, Quayle/Dole: 57 and Perot/Stockdale: 4.



Gore/Kennedy Jr. 80
Quayle/Dole 57
Perot/Stockman 4
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« Reply #226 on: January 12, 2013, 06:18:42 PM »

sorry guys for the delay, I needed to update some of my other TLs...
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« Reply #227 on: January 12, 2013, 07:02:30 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 09:51:43 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 3rd 1992 9:00

Anderson: Okay, we are now going to call the remaining states East of the Mississippi.


Gore/Kennedy 168
Quayle/Dole 105
Perot/Stockman 4

Okay, we are giving you the results now. Alabama, Florida, and North Carolina all go Republican. New York, Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin all go Democrat, and Virginia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are to close to call.
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« Reply #228 on: January 12, 2013, 07:32:51 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 08:28:16 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 3rd 1992 9:30

Rodgers: Okay, we are now going to call the Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, and the rest of the Midwestern states.



Gore/Kennedy Jr. 185
Quayle/Dole 184
Perot/Stockman 4

Rodgers: Okay, so or new changes are: Minnesota, and Iowa go Democratic, but all the rest of the called states are Republican, also, Virginia has been called for Quayle/Dole, leaving Gore/Kennedy a one point lead on the President, and the Vice President.
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« Reply #229 on: January 12, 2013, 07:56:39 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 08:36:48 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 3rd 1992 10:00

Rodgers: Okay now its 10, and we are going to call Pennsylvania, and the Mountain States.


Quayle/Dole 207
Gore/Kennedy 190
Perot/Stockman 14

Rodgers: Okay, here's the results, Colorado, Utah, Arizona and Pennsylvania are going to the Republicans; Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming go to Perot/Stockman; and finally, New Mexico has announced that it is Democratic. This makes the tally Quayle/Dole 207, Gore/Kennedy 190, and Perot/Stockman 14. Tom, do you think that Quayle is making a comeback?

Anderson: Possibly, but I really think that Washington, and California can really help out Gore/Kennedy to get back their lead.

Rodgers: I can see what you mean, but I'm putting my thoughts on the President.

Here's the 10:00 results, Please highlight inaccuracies.
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« Reply #230 on: January 12, 2013, 07:58:40 PM »

Stockman should be Stockdale
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« Reply #231 on: January 12, 2013, 08:16:32 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 09:19:32 PM by Jack Enderman »


Oh, sorry; my mind keeps on saying Stockman, not Stockdale; thus my mind is screaming at itself, in a way... : /
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« Reply #232 on: January 12, 2013, 08:46:28 PM »

Before I update, could, in this scenario, California could go Republican?
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« Reply #233 on: January 12, 2013, 08:47:51 PM »

yes
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« Reply #234 on: January 12, 2013, 09:03:56 PM »


I wonder if any Republican could win Califorinia anymore.
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« Reply #235 on: January 12, 2013, 09:22:15 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 09:50:29 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 3rd 1992 11:00

Rodgers: Okay, Its been a long night, but we finally made it to 11:00; and now we are about to call Nevada, and the remaining West Coast states. So here it is:



Quayle/Dole 234
Gore/Kennedy 201
Perot/Stockman 21

Anderson:Okay, so Washington is going Democratic, Nevada goes Republican, Oregon goes to Perot/Stockdale, and California is to close to call right now, so it is going to be yellow.
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« Reply #236 on: January 12, 2013, 09:48:42 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2013, 10:14:22 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 4th 1992 12:00

Rodgers: And yes, ladies and gentlemen, we have made it to Twelve O'clock, and we are just about to call of Hawaii, and with 96% of the votes coming in for Ohio, It is still amazingly tied, so we are going to ignore that, mainly because the current Ohio Governor has announced it will recount their votes tomorrow, and the next day, so whoever wins out of three, that is what they are going to call it for whoever wins, to the adding of that EV score to that candidate. On the West Coast, and 80% of all of the votes coming in, it's safe to say that California is going to Gore/Kennedy, but the Governor said he will recount due to the closeness of the votes. So, in the meantime we are calling Hawaii for Gore/Kennedy. Remember we are coloring California red due to what  the votes are currently saying.



Gore/Kennedy 259
Quayle/Dole 234
Perot/Stockman 21
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« Reply #237 on: January 12, 2013, 10:13:13 PM »

Nov. 4th 1992 1:00

Anderson: People, I can't believe I'm saying this, but its one o'clock, and we are still not done. Governor George Voinovich R-OH has said in a press confrence that he will recount the votes three times, tomorrow, and another the next day; whoever wins out of three, will give their 21 EV's to that candidate. Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA) announced that California will do the same as Ohio. But as with Alaska, its 3 EV's is going to Quayle/Dole. The reason that we are coloring California red is that what the current polls are saying.



Gore/Kennedy 259
Quayle/Dole 237
Perot/Stockman 21

Okay, how do you guys think that Ohio, and California will go?
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« Reply #238 on: January 12, 2013, 10:14:28 PM »

this could go either way right now
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« Reply #239 on: January 12, 2013, 11:09:36 PM »

hmmmmn... okay.
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« Reply #240 on: January 12, 2013, 11:23:09 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2013, 02:47:53 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 4th 1992 8:00 The Ohio Capitol Building

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Nov. 5th 1992 6:00 The California Capitol Building

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Quayle/Dole 312
Gore/Kennedy 205
Perot/Stockman  21

Dan Quayle retains the Presidency!

I'll do 1991 news in a few minutes.
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« Reply #241 on: January 12, 2013, 11:23:50 PM »
« Edited: January 13, 2013, 02:56:37 PM by Jack Enderman »

Nov. 4th 1992 8:00 The Ohio Capitol Building

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Quayle/Dole 312
Gore/Kennedy 205
Perot/Stockman  21

Dan Quayle retains the Presidency!



The Scene after Quayle's Victory speech.

I'll do 1991 news in a few minutes. By the way, questions? criticizims? comments?
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« Reply #242 on: January 13, 2013, 02:46:40 PM »

1993

Quayle and E. Dole are re-inagurated. Tensions in the Middle East start to rise due to the constant reelecting of one certain President in Iraq; not only that, but Iran is seeming to grow stale on their relations with Russia, Nato, and China. The *Central Asian Republic has incorperated Afghanistan, and Pakistan into their Republic. The Mexican Revolution begins; it is against the mainly dictatorship set up of their government. Tornadoes, floods, and hurricanes wreak havoc in North America, Europe, and the Caribbean. Marilyn Quayle, who announced she would challenge Evan Bayh for the Governor spot in 1992, lost the campaign to Bayh, announced she will run for Senate in 1998.

questions? corrections? comments? If not, I'm ready for 1994.
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« Reply #243 on: January 13, 2013, 04:03:13 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2013, 04:45:14 PM by Jack Enderman »

1994

'94 midterms show the slowing trust of moderate Republicans, and moderate Democrats. Congress is split in both houses of Congress. Nasa discovers a lightweight, and strong alternative to lead. Nasa also found a quicker way to get to, and from Mars. The Voyager program is rejuvinated, and also launched Voyager III to Uranus; by making a flyby of the Sun, and other planets, and by having the strongest engines, and the largest fuel tanks to make the possibly 12 to 15 year trip, only 6 to 7 years long. Richard Nixon dies three days after his heart attack in April; People like Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Dan Quayle, Bob, and Elizabeth Dole, President Quayle said that even though he didn't know him, Richard Nixon helped the Republican party
questions? corrections? comments? If not, I'm ready for 1995.
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« Reply #244 on: January 13, 2013, 06:41:59 PM »

Hold on. The mere fact that HW didn't run in 1988 has changed this much history?
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« Reply #245 on: January 13, 2013, 07:25:31 PM »

Hold on. The mere fact that HW didn't run in 1988 has changed this much history?

Actually, I was just trying to keep people interested throughout the election years, and some other things I like to add. But this is probably what really what would happen if Bush didn't run:

Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush 1980-1988

Michael Dukakis/Bill Clinton 1988-1992

John McCain/Dan Quayle 1992-1996
Dan Quayle/Elizabeth Dole 1996-2004

Al Gore/Howard Dean 2004-2012

Marco Rubio/Jeb Bush 2012-2020
Condoleezza Rice/Paul Ryan 2020-2028

Um, yeah that's probably far fetched, but that's just my thoughts. But the reason I did it this way


Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush 1980-1988
Dan Quayle/Bob Dole, Elizabeth Dole 1988-1996

Is that I just wanted to do a really interesting timeline; it really wasn't intended to be serious, but it was intended to be accurate. By the way, thanks for having me say why I did it in the first place. Smiley
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« Reply #246 on: January 19, 2013, 04:35:39 PM »

I forgot to add something.
1994

'94 midterms show the slowing trust of moderate Republicans, and moderate Democrats. Congress is split in both houses of Congress. Nasa discovers a lightweight, and strong alternative to lead. Nasa also found a quicker way to get to, and from Mars. The Voyager program is rejuvinated, and also launched Voyager III to Uranus; by making a flyby of the Sun, and other planets, and by having the strongest engines, and the largest fuel tanks to make the possibly 12 to 15 year trip, only 6 to 7 years long. Richard Nixon dies three days after his heart attack in April; People like Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Dan Quayle, Bob, and Elizabeth Dole, President Quayle said that even though he didn't know him, Richard Nixon helped the Republican party
questions? corrections? comments? If not, I'm ready for 1995.
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« Reply #247 on: January 19, 2013, 04:58:37 PM »

no comments? Oh well, okay so here's 1995:

1995

1996 Presidential Candidates announce their start of their campaigns. Vice-President Dole announces she won't run in 1996, (she was thinking if the Vice-President wouldn't run, the Republicans might win in 1996.) Tornadoes wreck Wisconsin, Michigan, the Dakota's, Indiana, and Ohio. A 7.5 earthquake rocks the San Francisco Bay area; but Silicon Valley isn't affected as drastically as San Francisco, and Oakland. President Quayle visits parts of Michigan, Indiana, and Wisconsin, which were the most affected. Presidential approval ratings settle at a personal record average of 78%; '89 was 62%, '90 was 55%, '91 was 49%, '92 was 54%, '93 was 67%. Quayle's Moon program is finishing up their preperations, launches for the Moon are set in 1996, and 1997, Mars launches are set for 1998, and 1999.

questions? corrections? comments? If not, I'm ready for 1996.
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« Reply #248 on: January 25, 2013, 10:16:19 PM »

sorry I haven't updated in a while guys, I'll probably update tomorrow.
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« Reply #249 on: January 27, 2013, 08:43:08 PM »

Me: I'm sorry I delayed guys, it was my schedule that got in the way.

My Mind: ... lame excuse...

Me: Oh okay, I was busy by watching movies and such.

My Mind: A little better.

Me: OH C'MMON MAN!!!

My Mind: Dude, just do the update!

Me: Oh, right. Tongue

January-July
Okay, so after some candidates like Biden, Gore, and Lieberman not running, some unknown candidates make a run for it: Senator David Pryor D-AR, and former Governor Jim Folsom Jr. run for President. Along with JFK Jr. announcing he will run for President, Howard Dean also announces a run. Pryor wins big in the West, Folsom wins the Midwest, making the East, and the South the main battleground for Dean, and Kennedy. Two months before the convention, Folsom drops out. Pryor is expected to drop out sometime in July, but doesn't.



That's all I have time for, but I do have to say that there is a big twist soon.
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