could/can genetics be toyed with to make the population more liberal?

[freepcrusher]

i've always wondered what makes Vermont whites so much more liberal then the rest of the white population elsewhere. Is it possible to take a stereotypical white in Tennessee or Oklahoma and tinker with the genes to make them behave like Vermont whites (without of course telling them what the intent is)

[dead0man]

You want to use Bond Villain tactics to get people to vote the way you want them to?  And Republicans are the evil ones?  I'm confused.

[Antonio the Sixth]

what is this i don't even

[memphis]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I remember seeing an article in the mid-2000s that said conservatives had a higher birth rate than progressives. The tax system was essentially paying conservatives to have kids.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

wtf am i reading

[freepcrusher]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1. So its really psychology. How do you turn a foaming at the mouth type into the type of person who lives in western Massachusetts or Vermont?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1.

That's why the government needs to stop paying conservatives to have kids.

[memphis]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1. So its really psychology. How do you turn a foaming at the mouth type into the type of person who lives in western Massachusetts or Vermont?

Have you tried the power of persuasion? Much cheaper, fewer ethical concerns, and doesn't require as of yet sophisticated and unavailable technology.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1. So its really psychology. How do you turn a foaming at the mouth type into the type of person who lives in western Massachusetts or Vermont?

Have you tried the power of persuasion? Much cheaper, fewer ethical concerns, and doesn't require as of yet sophisticated and unavailable technology.

Or an authoritarian regime.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The retention rate for cults is about 75%. That means roughly 25% of conservatives' offspring will defect to the forces of good.

[freepcrusher]

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1.

That's why the government needs to stop paying conservatives to have kids.

you talking about this?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/baby-gap/

[Bandit3 the Worker]

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1.

That's why the government needs to stop paying conservatives to have kids.

you talking about this?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/baby-gap/

That might have been it.

[memphis]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1. So its really psychology. How do you turn a foaming at the mouth type into the type of person who lives in western Massachusetts or Vermont?

Have you tried the power of persuasion? Much cheaper, fewer ethical concerns, and doesn't require as of yet sophisticated and unavailable technology.

Or an authoritarian regime.

Right. What I said about the power of persuasion. That's the exact opposite of what I suggested. It's exceedingly unhelpful.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Assuming we understood genetics better and had the tools with which to manipulate individual sequences of DNA, we could do much more interesting things than influence voting patterns.

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1. So its really psychology. How do you turn a foaming at the mouth type into the type of person who lives in western Massachusetts or Vermont?

Have you tried the power of persuasion? Much cheaper, fewer ethical concerns, and doesn't require as of yet sophisticated and unavailable technology.

Or an authoritarian regime.

Right. What I said about the power of persuasion. That's the exact opposite of what I suggested. It's exceedingly unhelpful.

I know.   I just wanted freepcrusher to realize it would take something like an authoritarian regime for such a ridiculous idea to be carried out.

(That, or just hardline partisan parents, of course.)

[DC Al Fine]

well I'm worried that white liberals are in the process of being extinct and that the foaming at the mouth types will soon outnumber them greater than 2:1.

That's why the government needs to stop paying conservatives to have kids.

Those subsidies are available to liberals too. The lack of liberal babies goes much deeper than tax breaks. It has much more to do with the fact that most white liberals value lattes and the theatre more than babies. Until that changes, changes to the tax code won`t do much to level the playing field.

[Sbane]

Freepcrusher posts something ridiculous. DC al fine tries to find out if he can match him. I like this thread.

[Person Man]

I mean its not like liberals go out and get a bunch of abortions. The abortion rate is probably just stabilizing after falling by like 20 or 30 some odd percent. It could simply be a function of rural working class and poverty whites either not knowing how to use a condom when they are 16 or are so ashamed about having sex, that they don't go out to buy condoms out of fear that their dad will beat them or that they will be banned from church.

There's just fewer teen pregnancies amongst middle class and upper middle class urban whites than they are working and poverty rural and exurban whites. Beyond that, it could be there are fewer planned births in urban areas simply because though they make maybe twice as much in Chicago as they do in Muncie, it costs three times as much to raise a child to maturity...and that goes to the reason they vote Democrat in the first place.

So the only thing I need to say is that Republicans probably have more kids because they can afford to even though they might not make more money. I mean, even Catholic illegals have stopped having kids in the last couple of years.

[freepcrusher]

I mean its not like liberals go out and get a bunch of abortions. The abortion rate is probably just stabilizing after falling by like 20 or 30 some odd percent. It could simply be a function of rural working class and poverty whites either not knowing how to use a condom when they are 16 or are so ashamed about having sex, that they don't go out to buy condoms out of fear that their dad will beat them or that they will be banned from church.

There's just fewer teen pregnancies amongst middle class and upper middle class urban whites than they are working and poverty rural and exurban whites. Beyond that, it could be there are fewer planned births in urban areas simply because though they make maybe twice as much in Chicago as they do in Muncie, it costs three times as much to raise a child to maturity...and that goes to the reason they vote Democrat in the first place.

So the only thing I need to say is that Republicans probably have more kids because they can afford to even though they might not make more money. I mean, even Catholic illegals have stopped having kids in the last couple of years.

well what do you think the best way to make the COL in Texas the same as in California?

[Mehmentum]

Derp thread.

[John Dibble]

Sure, you could influence behavior by changing the genes of the next generation, but you don't really need to.

Political outlook is not determined simply by genes. While behavior does have a genetic component, it is not the sole determining factor. The environment in which you are raised - parents, peers, location, etc. - has a significant affect because it changes the experiences that mole you as well as your perspective on the world.

[King]

If we were going to influence behavior through genes, it would be better to increase empathy to the point where we don't really need much government to look after the environment and the poor.

[Indy Texas]

Could someone please post some evidence that white liberals have significantly fewer children than white conservatives? It's like this entire board is consumed with binary anecdotes where all liberals live like the cast of Friends and all conservatives are like the Duggars and the Santorums (or is the plural Santora?).

[All Along The Watchtower]

Who cares if white liberals are "going extinct" (a highly dubious claim as it is, lol)

By that, I mean what about black, Latino, and Asian liberals? Why get worried about white people? Seems kinda racist to me.

[Sbane]

Hasn't freepcrusher already made it clear he doesn't care much for minorities?