Politico:Jim DeMint blasts John Boehner’s fiscal cliff proposal

[Incipimus iterum]

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/jim-demint-blasts-boehners-fiscal-cliff-proposal-84557.html?hp=l3

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[Sbane]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Taking DeMint at his word, he can afford to throw as much bombast as he wants, since he's said he has no plans to run for reelection in 2016.  I think he'll keep his word, which mean most likely his next election is in 2018 for governor.  (He's smart enough to know he has no chance to win the presidency and not in any need to run for it just to keep his band alive.)

[Franzl]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

It'd be a lot more convenient if Muslim Obama did it and could then be blamed for "death panels" or whatever else they can come up with.

[memphis]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Dude just wants to cut the free Escalades that the government gives all drug addicted welfare mothers. Nothing wrong with that.

[krazen1211]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

[Sbane]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Where's the entitlement cuts in there? And $2.5 Trillion dollars....that only works with a $1.5 Trillion tax hike. Is that the plan?

[krazen1211]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Where's the entitlement cuts in there? And $2.5 Trillion dollars....that only works with a $1.5 Trillion tax hike. Is that the plan?

Repeal the Medicaid FMAP increase in the “State Bailout” (Senate amendments to S. 1586).  $16.1 billion total savings



These are of course real cuts like the sequester. Not phantom paper cuts like 'reducing future War spending'. If you include such phantom cuts like that you get the remaining $1.5 trillion.

[freepcrusher]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Jordan is a joke who is disliked even by most conservatives.

[krazen1211]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Jordan is a joke who is disliked even by most conservatives.

Jordan is a joke because he proposed spending cuts?

Or should he do this instead?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-bill-clintons-speech-and-other-democrats-at-the-convention-in-charlotte/2012/09/06/55b9df68-f7e1-11e1-8b93-c4f4ab1c8d13_blog.html?wprss=rss_congress

Moreover, the administration is also counting $848 billion in phantom savings from winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, even though the administration had long made clear those wars would end.

The administration also counts $800 billion in savings in debt payments (from lower deficits) as a “spending cut,” which is a dubious claim. We didn’t realize that debt payments were now considered a government program.

[memphis]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Ok. I'll cut my grocery budget by going back to what I was spending 10 years ago. Sounds great, but there's no "there" there.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I note that $2.3 billion of that $2.5 billion comes from a totally unrealistic capping of FY 2012 thru 2021 non-defense discretionary spending at FY 2006 levels without inflation adjustments.  There is no way in hell even a GOP controlled Congress and White House would go through with such a plan, so who does Jim think he is fooling?

[krazen1211]

I note that $2.3 billion of that $2.5 billion comes from a totally unrealistic capping of FY 2012 thru 2021 non-defense discretionary spending at FY 2006 levels without inflation adjustments.  There is no way in hell even a GOP controlled Congress and White House would go through with such a plan, so who does Jim think he is fooling?

What's there to fool? Sbane asked for Jim Demint's spending cuts and he displayed his spending cuts over a year ago.

[krazen1211]

Jim DeMint should outline what sort of spending and entitlement cuts he would like. Should play well in a state like South Carolina.

Done and done.

http://rsc.jordan.house.gov/solutions/sra.htm

The Spending Reduction Act of 2011 reduces federal spending by $2.5 trillion over ten years.  The bill will
specifically hold FY 2011 non-security discretionary spending to FY 08 levels, hold non-defense
discretionary spending to FY 06 levels thereafter for the rest of the ten-year budget window (the same level
as in effect during the last year of GOP control of the Congress), and include more than 100 other program
eliminations or savings proposals, consisting of proposals from the RSC Sunset Caucus, YouCut, or past
RSC budgets.

Ok. I'll cut my grocery budget by going back to what I was spending 10 years ago. Sounds great, but there's no "there" there.

I don't know if you eat more than you did 10 years ago but if so that would be a spending cut. There's plenty of "there" there just as there was in the bipartisan Budget Control Act.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I note that $2.3 billion of that $2.5 billion comes from a totally unrealistic capping of FY 2012 thru 2021 non-defense discretionary spending at FY 2006 levels without inflation adjustments.  There is no way in hell even a GOP controlled Congress and White House would go through with such a plan, so who does Jim think he is fooling?

What's there to fool? Sbane asked for Jim Demint's spending cuts and he displayed his spending cuts over a year ago.

My point is that DeMint's cuts are phantom, illusionary cuts that would never survive.  Congress has tried setting arbitrary budget restraints for future Congresses before.  They got broken before and they'll get broken again if Congress is foolish enough to go there. The only way to permanently reduce spending is with entitlement cuts which DeMint's plan largely avoided.

[King]

It's clearly not a serious proposal as DeMint never talks about it.

[Incipimus iterum]

It's clearly not a serious proposal as DeMint never talks about it.

as the old saying goes he's all Hat and no Cattle

[krazen1211]

I note that $2.3 billion of that $2.5 billion comes from a totally unrealistic capping of FY 2012 thru 2021 non-defense discretionary spending at FY 2006 levels without inflation adjustments.  There is no way in hell even a GOP controlled Congress and White House would go through with such a plan, so who does Jim think he is fooling?

What's there to fool? Sbane asked for Jim Demint's spending cuts and he displayed his spending cuts over a year ago.

My point is that DeMint's cuts are phantom, illusionary cuts that would never survive.  Congress has tried setting arbitrary budget restraints for future Congresses before.  They got broken before and they'll get broken again if Congress is foolish enough to go there. The only way to permanently reduce spending is with entitlement cuts which DeMint's plan largely avoided.

Well, yes, that is true as Congress only has 1 Jim Demint. It would not be true if Congress had 535 Jim Demints.