Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myself

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/11/29/obama-to-gop-i-wont-negotiate-with-myself/

Republican aides are circulating their summary of the White House’s opening bid on the fiscal cliff. They’re circulating it because they believe it fleshes out Speaker John Boehner’s complaint that “the White House has to get serious.” Above all, they’re circulating it because the president isn’t offering them anything in his opening bid. “How did it take them three weeks (and two days) to offer nothing but President Obama’s budget?” A GOP leadership aide asked me rhetorically.
We’re seeing two things here. One is that the negotiations aren’t going well. When one side begins leaking the other side’s proposals, that’s typically a bad sign. The other is that Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama they’re facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/11/29/obama-to-gop-i-wont-negotiate-with-myself/

Republican aides are circulating their summary of the White House’s opening bid on the fiscal cliff. They’re circulating it because they believe it fleshes out Speaker John Boehner’s complaint that “the White House has to get serious.” Above all, they’re circulating it because the president isn’t offering them anything in his opening bid. “How did it take them three weeks (and two days) to offer nothing but President Obama’s budget?” A GOP leadership aide asked me rhetorically.
We’re seeing two things here. One is that the negotiations aren’t going well. When one side begins leaking the other side’s proposals, that’s typically a bad sign. The other is that Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama they’re facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself.

This is exactly why Obama was reelected. To rebuild the middle class and pull the top 5% back down to earth.

[Sbane]

Republicans want Obama to propose both the tax increase and the entitlement cuts. That doesn't make sense. Republicans should come to the table with the entitlement and other spending cuts they want, and Obama should propose the tax increases he wants.

[Napoleon]

Republicans have no negotiating power here.

[politicallefty]

It's about time the White House learned how to properly negotiate instead of constant pre-compromising. I only wish this had been the case from the start, but definitely better late than never.

[Blue3]

It's about time the White House learned how to properly negotiate instead of constant pre-compromising. I only wish this had been the case from the start, but definitely better late than never.

Word.

I wonder if Obama could actually succeed at getting the National Infrastructure Bank, and abolishing the debt ceiling? Perhaps the NIB, which is some short-term spending costs that would balance-out the permanent spending cuts.

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Good news that his pre-capitulation was somewhat limited. Hopefully he realizes that a bad bill (i.e., almost anything House Republicans will likely pass) is worse than no bill at all.

[Torie]

Republicans want Obama to propose both the tax increase and the entitlement cuts. That doesn't make sense. Republicans should come to the table with the entitlement and other spending cuts they want, and Obama should propose the tax increases he wants.

I think the idea is to have both parties take ownership of entitlement cuts. Everyone knows they are necessary. That is why the negotiations are behind closed doors - the real ones, not the media soundbite negotiations which is just posturing.

[Sbane]

Republicans want Obama to propose both the tax increase and the entitlement cuts. That doesn't make sense. Republicans should come to the table with the entitlement and other spending cuts they want, and Obama should propose the tax increases he wants.

I think the idea is to have both parties take ownership of entitlement cuts. Everyone knows they are necessary. That is why the negotiations are behind closed doors - the real ones, not the media soundbite negotiations which is just posturing.

So why aren't the Republicans proposing tax hikes? In the end both parties will have to take ownership of both the tax hikes and the entitlement cuts. I don't think Republicans actually want to lay down on paper what they mean by entitlement cuts....because it sounds a lot like welfare cuts to certain people. And the Republicans would prefer if those people would continue to believe that.

The Democrats should put down what they want as tax hikes, which they have and they are not going to get it imo, and the Republicans should lay down their position on entitlement cuts (aka medicare and social security cuts). Neither party will get what they want of course, but the Republicans should at least be on the record stating what they want. They shouldn't get to run on opposing tax hikes AND medicare/social security cuts (while still running on opposing entitlements because as you know, welfare is like half the budget or whatever )

I have to say that a few Republicans have come out with their own plans, like Senator Bob Corker and I appreciate that. I don't know how much savings will come from that, but it's better than nothing. Both parties should come out with what they want and then negotiations can proceed from there.