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« on: November 11, 2012, 12:38:43 PM »

obviously yes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2012, 12:47:11 PM »

Hey Walter, long time no see. 

Yes, quite so. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 01:02:23 PM »

No. Obama is a black, you see.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 01:24:02 PM »

I'd say lean GOP, but if someone has a category/term for between lean and strong it maybe should fall there.

"Likely GOP"?
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2012, 01:29:08 PM »

Unless a conservative democrat who campaigns that way runs, otherwise I think its days as a bellwether are gone.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2012, 01:32:28 PM »

Unless a conservative democrat who campaigns that way runs, otherwise I think its days as a bellwether are gone.

Oh agreed--MO hasn't been a bellweather for ages. But considering how VERY close Obama got with less than 53% of the vote....
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2012, 01:47:24 PM »

Like I said in another thread, Missouri joined the SEC Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2012, 01:54:44 PM »

I'd say Lean/Likely GOP; look at how McCaskill and Nixon did. It's obviously trended, but Obama is a fairly poor candidate for the state.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 02:16:41 PM »

Obama was a bad match for MO. Someone like Hillary will have a solid shot at MO in 2016.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 03:59:32 PM »

Obama was a bad match for MO. Someone like Hillary will have a solid shot at MO in 2016.

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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2012, 04:04:30 PM »

actually we only lost Missouri in order to have a good shot in 2014.

/mittyLogic

Also when you look at the one open-seat state race in MO, the Democrat won 49-48.

The Missouri result is the result of the Obama campaign refusing to actually contest the state, to go along with a flawed state party
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2012, 04:08:53 PM »

Unless the next GOP ticket is Akin/Mourdock, yes
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2012, 04:09:19 PM »

The Upper South is racing towards the GOP.  Missouri is a state in reach of a Dem landslide, but short of that, it's becoming solid R.  
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2012, 04:09:44 PM »

actually we only lost Missouri in order to have a good shot in 2014.

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uh?
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2012, 04:10:56 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2012, 04:34:31 PM »

actually we only lost Missouri in order to have a good shot in 2014.

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uh?

there's no search on the site, so maybe it was someone else who made those "Democrats should hope Obama loses so they can win the 2014 midterms" posts
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2012, 04:51:29 PM »

Whites will come around eventually.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2012, 04:57:17 PM »

The Upper South is racing towards the GOP.  Missouri is a state in reach of a Dem landslide, but short of that, it's becoming solid R.  

Missouri isn't fully an upper south state, I think, or anyway is the least so of those states.  But even accepting your definition (I'm assuming you mean MO-KY-TN-WV? or are you including AR?) Missouri is by far the most likely of those to go Democratic again someday, isn't it?
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2012, 05:07:46 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2012, 11:37:13 PM »

Unless a conservative democrat who campaigns that way runs, otherwise I think its days as a bellwether are gone.

This. It was inherently irritating that RCP had Missouri as a tossup even the days before the election. Besides one PPP poll that showed Obama+1, and McCaskill +11 a week after the "legitimate rape" comment, nothing else pointed to an Obama victory in the State.
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2012, 01:24:25 AM »

I wouldn't say "solid", because in the next election there will almost definitely be a swing back towards the (white ?) Democratic nominee. Especially in states like MO, AR, WV etc.

And especially if someone like Mike Beebe or Mark Warner are the Dem. nominees.
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