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« Reply #2025 on: June 08, 2018, 08:53:10 AM »

Here's a transcript of the conversation between Tippins and Cagle: https://politics.myajc.com/blog/politics/read-transcript-secret-recording-cagle-backing-bad-public-policy/JATmPKxlNgBuqGpIPyr2XO/

This story is getting a fair amount of attention in the Atlanta media, and if it holds up through the runoff it might be enough to give Kemp the win.
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« Reply #2026 on: June 08, 2018, 09:44:18 AM »

Wow... that's worse than I thought. Kemp will be the nominee.
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« Reply #2027 on: June 08, 2018, 11:08:49 AM »

Wow... that's worse than I thought. Kemp will be the nominee.

Lol. That “pro-choice” part really got me.
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« Reply #2028 on: June 08, 2018, 11:54:28 AM »

Wow... that's worse than I thought. Kemp will be the nominee.

Kemp was going to be the nominee anyway because a 12-year lieutenant governor who only gets 38% of the vote in the first round is an extremely weak candidate.

Think about that, Casey Cagle had twelve years to build a brand as Georgia's heir apparent.  The fact that he even attracted considerable opposition in the GOP primary is pretty remarkable.

However, I will say that whoever wins the runoff will be the candidate who is most able to capture Hunter Hill's former supporters in the Atlanta suburbs.  Based on the way that Kemp and Cagle had been running their campaigns, one would think that Cagle would be able to win most of these voters but the Tippins recordings throw a major wrench into that calculation.   
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« Reply #2029 on: June 08, 2018, 12:02:36 PM »

Wow... that's worse than I thought. Kemp will be the nominee.

Kemp was going to be the nominee anyway because a 12-year lieutenant governor who only gets 38% of the vote in the first round is an extremely weak candidate.

Think about that, Casey Cagle had twelve years to build a brand as Georgia's heir apparent.  The fact that he even attracted considerable opposition in the GOP primary is pretty remarkable.

However, I will say that whoever wins the runoff will be the candidate who is most able to capture Hunter Hill's former supporters in the Atlanta suburbs.  Based on the way that Kemp and Cagle had been running their campaigns, one would think that Cagle would be able to win most of these voters but the Tippins recordings throw a major wrench into that calculation.   

Yeah, I thought Kemp would win by 3 before this... now I can see him winning by double digits.
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« Reply #2030 on: June 08, 2018, 12:10:09 PM »

Having read the transcript, it’s actually worse than I imagined.
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« Reply #2031 on: June 08, 2018, 01:01:23 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2018, 01:11:57 PM by RFKFan68 »

I’m going to revel in the downfall of Corrupt Casey. Like, at least win the nomination before you get exposed when you think you’re owed the office. Lol.
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« Reply #2032 on: June 08, 2018, 09:17:21 PM »

Agreed everyone. The transcript is actually worse and I thought Kemp was gonna win before this but this sealed the deal. Kemp has had the momentum for a while and Cagle underperformed in the primary bigly.
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« Reply #2033 on: June 08, 2018, 09:18:40 PM »

Keeps getting better and better for Stacey Abrams.
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« Reply #2034 on: June 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM »

Having read the transcript, it’s actually worse than I imagined.
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« Reply #2035 on: June 09, 2018, 07:55:40 AM »

Cagle plays defense in an interview with the AJC and Channel 2.
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« Reply #2036 on: June 09, 2018, 08:01:15 AM »

Primary: Lean Cagle->Tossup
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« Reply #2037 on: June 09, 2018, 02:52:57 PM »


IMO this is generous to Cagle
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« Reply #2038 on: June 09, 2018, 03:28:37 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.

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« Reply #2039 on: June 10, 2018, 04:16:13 AM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.



I think that's a bit too generous to Abrams. It's a solidly Lean R race now. She does have momentum and I think she's very well within range to pull off a victory, but I don't think that would happen if the election were to be held today.
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« Reply #2040 on: June 10, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »

Fayette, Meriwether, Wilkes, Screven, McIntosh, Houston, Bulloch, Echols, Lowndes, and Brooks are not flipping.

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« Reply #2041 on: June 10, 2018, 03:39:23 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.


This map is among the most ridiculous I have seen. This would be a landslide for Abrams, which, even if she wins, won't happen because Georgia is inelastic.
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« Reply #2042 on: June 10, 2018, 03:48:03 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.


This map is among the most ridiculous I have seen. This would be a landslide for Abrams, which, even if she wins, won't happen because Georgia is inelastic.

<2% win = Landslide? lol
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« Reply #2043 on: June 10, 2018, 04:40:56 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.


This map is among the most ridiculous I have seen. This would be a landslide for Abrams, which, even if she wins, won't happen because Georgia is inelastic.

Georgia is relatively inelastic, but I think it's becoming more elastic due to an influx of young, educated people.  I still think the governor race is Lean R at this point, but the map above is within the reasonable range of outcomes.
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« Reply #2044 on: June 10, 2018, 04:43:07 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.


This map is among the most ridiculous I have seen. This would be a landslide for Abrams, which, even if she wins, won't happen because Georgia is inelastic.

<2% win = Landslide? lol
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« Reply #2045 on: June 10, 2018, 04:57:49 PM »

At this time, Abrams should pull out a narrow victory. Could get wider later in the year.


This map is among the most ridiculous I have seen. This would be a landslide for Abrams, which, even if she wins, won't happen because Georgia is inelastic.

<2% win = Landslide? lol

That map is not a <2% win, despite the map-maker's believe to the contrary.
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« Reply #2046 on: June 10, 2018, 05:24:44 PM »

Just for the record, I accidentally red the map using non-Atlas colors, hence my comments, I'm sorry....whoops....still not a plausible map though.
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« Reply #2047 on: June 11, 2018, 10:48:11 PM »

A narrow Democratic win in 2018 probably looks something like this:



The "peripheral expansion counties" as I call them (places like Meriwether, McIntosh, Wilkes, etc) are hard to predict, but I think they have a much better chance of all going GOP even with a statewide D win at this point than even 1 of them going D (Meriwether may be the exception to that). The SW portion of the Black Belt is collapsing fast, too: it's possible none of those D>40% counties goes to Abrams even in a statewide victory.

Brooks is a difficult one to predict. There were great things happening there several years ago, but ever since the GOP crushed the rebellion, it has slid substantially back toward the GOP. In a good year, though, it has the potential to flip.
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« Reply #2048 on: June 14, 2018, 03:46:57 PM »

Cagle bought a condo from lobbyist

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« Reply #2049 on: June 14, 2018, 03:52:18 PM »


Cagle is probably a worse candidate than Kemp now lmao
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