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Question: Who will win CO?
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« on: October 27, 2012, 05:46:16 PM »

Currently the RCP avg is tied in CO. The last 3 polls have Obama tied or ahead, yet CO is being treated as part of Romney's baseline before he tips OH or WI. Dems underpolled in CO in 2004, 2008 and 2010. Is CO Obama's hidden trump card? Or has Romney returned it back to the old days and run up the white suburban vote so far that the Latino vote isn't enough for Obama?
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2012, 05:48:52 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2012, 05:55:11 PM by opebo »

Quite narrow Obama win, and without it and Ohio Romney has no possible electoral win:



Wait, correction, I'm wrong, there is a way to 269 without Colorado or Ohio - through the Maine congressional district:

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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2012, 05:51:03 PM »

However Jefferson County votes, that's pretty much how Colorado will vote.
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2012, 05:53:06 PM »

Colorado is the lynch-pin of Romney's whole strategy as far as I'm concerned.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2012, 05:56:06 PM »

I think we've seen enough about CO in the past 4 years to know that ties go to the D's there.

Perhaps the most interesting thing about CO is the Obama-wins-without-Ohio map:

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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2012, 06:07:53 PM »


Wait, correction, I'm wrong, there is a way to 269 without Colorado or Ohio - through the Maine congressional district:



Let’s hope Romney ekes out this narrowest of victories for the sake of mankind.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2012, 06:09:43 PM »

If the race is still a tie going into election day, then Obama will win it. Democrats underpoll in Colorado, not as massively as they do in Nevada, but it's still significant.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2012, 06:17:38 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2012, 06:21:05 PM by Likely Voter »

Picking up on the 'banking on WI' thread, here is another map which becomes an Obama win, even if Romney wins WI, IA and NH flank attack.



So both Romney's OH=Victory and his WI Flank attack rely on CO. He could pull off the WI+NH+IA flank attack if he added ME-2. But that seems like quite the bank shot. It is also winning in the House, which is quite the mess.

So my point is, if there is any state Romney seems to be 'banking' on it is CO, and I'm not sure that is really money in the bank for him. His chances of winning are at best 50/50 IMHO. 538 only gives him 43%.   Interestingly it is about 50/50 on inTrade right now.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2012, 06:19:07 PM »

Just look what happened in Buck vs Bennett

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/co/colorado_senate_buck_vs_bennet-1106.html

If I'm Romney and not ahead by at least 3 a day before election day and above 50% , I'm sweating.

Obama holds N.H. , Wisconsin,  Iowa, and Colorado, it's checkmate regardless of Ohio.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 06:22:45 PM »

Just look what happened in Buck vs Bennett

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/co/colorado_senate_buck_vs_bennet-1106.html

If I'm Romney and not ahead by at least 3 a day before election day and above 50% , I'm sweating.

Obama holds N.H. , Wisconsin,  Iowa, and Colorado, it's checkmate regardless of Ohio.

Buck was a loon.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 06:24:38 PM »

I agree Colorado is essential for Romney's chances at the white house.  But I feel if he wins enough of the other states necessary to get to 270, then Colorado will be flipping GOP before them.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 06:26:12 PM »

Picking up on the 'banking on WI' thread, here is another map which becomes an Obama win, even if Romney wins WI, IA and NH flank attack.



So both Romney's OH=Victory and his WI Flank attack rely on CO. He could pull off the WI+NH+IA flank attack if he added ME-2. But that seems like quite the bank shot. It is also winning in the House, which is quite the mess.

So my point is, if there is any state Romney seems to be 'banking' on it is CO, and I'm not sure that is really money in the bank for him. His chances of winning are at best 50/50 IMHO. 538 only gives him 43%.   Interestingly it is about 50/50 on inTrade right now.

He would win in the House, but he would likely be stuck with Biden as VP.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2012, 06:26:50 PM »

If Obama wins Ohio and Colorado it's over.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2012, 06:30:46 PM »

As of now, Jefferson county has more absentee ballots and early voting turned in for the GOP than the Democrats, so CO will go for Romney this election.  Romney has a better chance getting CO than OH, WI, NH, and IA.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 06:34:21 PM »

Romney is the correct answer.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2012, 06:44:40 PM »

Colorado seems to be in the same boat as Virginia.  Either one of these states could render a win by Romney in WI or OH moot. 
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 06:51:28 PM »

Colorado seems to be in the same boat as Virginia.  Either one of these states could render a win by Romney in WI or OH moot. 

Exactly. If you were to think of this like a war, then NC and FL is Romney territory, NV+WI+IA+OH+NH is Obama territory and VA and CO are no man's land. After the first debate Romney did seem to take over the VA/CO territory and start chipping away at Obama's wall, but in the last week or so Obama seems to have moved the battlefront back to CO/VA while still holding his last line of defense intact. So all the talk of Romney winning by flipping OH or flanking OH is moot until he again regains solid leads in CO and VA.
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2012, 06:56:07 PM »

Colorado seems to be in the same boat as Virginia.  Either one of these states could render a win by Romney in WI or OH moot. 

Exactly. If you were to think of this like a war, then NC and FL is Romney territory, NV+WI+IA+OH+NH is Obama territory and VA and CO are no man's land. After the first debate Romney did seem to take over the VA/CO territory and start chipping away at Obama's wall, but in the last week or so Obama seems to have moved the battlefront back to CO/VA while still holding his last line of defense intact. So all the talk of Romney winning by flipping OH or flanking OH is moot until he again regains solid leads in CO and VA.

This a great analogy
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 06:56:44 PM »

See my prediction map, though CO and VA are the two states I'm least certain about.
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 06:58:27 PM »

Romney wins, he takes CO, OH and VA.  Obama wins, he takes the same states mentioned.
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2012, 07:25:15 PM »

Romney prolly takes Colorado and Obama takes Virginia, or the other way around, IDK.
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2012, 08:08:49 PM »

Obama.....but he takes it by a very slim margin.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2012, 08:26:09 PM »

Mormon Power!

Mormon GOTV volunteers will win Colorado.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2012, 08:27:48 PM »

Last week I had Romney winning it, 50-48... but now, I have Obama winning it by a similar margin.

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2012, 08:35:00 PM »
« Edited: October 27, 2012, 09:12:26 PM by JFK-Democrat »

I really want Obama to win this state!. The results will no doubt be close on Nov 6th. However, the demographics is trending the way of the Democrats. Once we lock down Colorado and convert Arizona, fairly easy to do - with Latinos and California transplants Smiley.

Democrats will have a nice firm grip on the fastest growing states in the west. No point in mentioning Nevada (now a Cali satellite state) or New Mexico since they are gone for Republicans. I really want the D's to box in Republicans in, in the interior west Smiley

The influence of California on the politics of some of those western states (Nevada, colorado, Arizona, heck even Montana) cannot be understated.
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