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« on: February 03, 2005, 05:18:53 AM »
« edited: February 03, 2005, 05:20:33 AM by Polkergeist »
I was cruising around the net when I found this....



Here's a close up of the NYC area



These states come from this site

http://www.fakeisthenewreal.org/reform/reform.html

The aim of the map is to make each state of equal population. Hence each states woudl have the same weight in the EC. Of course this wouldn't happen but It's interesting to think about how each state would vote.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2005, 05:40:21 AM »
I'll have a go but pull me up when I go astray. Smiley

North New England: lean Dem
Boston: Solid Dem
South New England: Solid Dem
Long Island: Solid Dem
New York: Hard Dem
Jersey: Dunno
Susqenhana: I suspect GOP
Erie: Tossup?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2005, 05:58:38 AM »
Philadelphia: Dem
Alleghany: Solid GOP
Baltimore-Washington: Solid Dem
Chesapeake: GOP
North Coast: Lean Dem
Sohio: Solid GOP
Virgitucky: Solid GOP
Wabash: Solid GOP
Pamlico: Lean/Solid GOP
Savannah: Solid GOP
Okefennokee: Solid GOP
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2005, 06:05:34 AM »
interesting... I think that Muon2 did something like this a while back
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2005, 06:09:38 AM »
Ocala: Solid GOP
Everglades: Solid Dem
Atlanta: ?
Tombigbee: Solid GOP
Delta: ?
Sabine: GOP
Great Smoky: GOP
Sabine: Solid GOP
Dallas: GOP
Houston: GOP
Pecos: Lean GOP
Ar/Kansas: Lean GOP
Llano Estacado: GOP
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2005, 06:25:08 AM »
Show Me: Lean/Solid GOP
Cornlands: ?
Chicago: Hard Dem
Detroit: Solid Dem
Michiana: Tossup/Lean GOP
Green Bay: Solid GOP
Land O' Lakes: Lean/Solid Dem
Plains: Solid GOP
Rocky Mountain High: Hard GOP
Loving Hands: ?
Rio Grande: Lean GOP
Washalaska: Lean GOP
Williamette: Lean Dem
Bay: Solid Dem
Joaquin: ?
Mohave: GOP
LA: Dem
Orange: GOP
Nice Weather: ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2005, 06:31:56 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2005, 06:41:05 AM by jfern »
Washlaska - Lean Dem
Wilmaette - Looks lean Dem
Bay - Blowout Dem
Joaquin - Dem
Mohave - ?
Los Angeles - Dem
Orange - GOP
Nice Weather - Dem
Rocky Mountain High - Solid GOP
Loving Hands - GOP
Rio Grande - GOP
Plains - GOP
Llano Estacado - Solid GOP
Pecos - GOP
Dalls - GOP
Houston - GOP
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2005, 06:35:42 AM »

Kerry won the combined Washington + Alaska
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2005, 06:45:24 AM »
Yep I'll pay that. Plus this state would have relatively high Green vote.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2005, 10:21:11 AM »
Quote from: Polkergeist on February 03, 2005, 05:40:21 AM
Jersey: Dunno
Susqenhana: I suspect GOP
Erie: Tossup?
Jersey: Solid Dem
Susquehanna: Pretty Solid Rep
Erie: Pretty Solid Rep
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2005, 10:25:44 AM »
« Edited: February 03, 2005, 10:27:20 AM by Lewis Trondheim »
Maybe I should take a look at the close-up, but isn't this dominated by the Pittsburgh area? (Plus Rep-leaning N WV) Usually lean Dem, tossup this time around.
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Pretty marginal.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2005, 10:30:36 AM »
Quote from: Polkergeist on February 03, 2005, 06:09:38 AM
Ocala: Solid GOP
Everglades: Solid Dem
Atlanta: ?
Leans Rep
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Basically the Dems would be utterly unable to crack 50% and the Reps utterly unable to crack 55%. Black Belt...
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Leans Rep.
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Very safe actually.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2005, 10:34:54 AM »
LEan Rep. If it were just the actual cornlands, this would be hard Rep, but it's not.
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That's a strange one...Nevada, Utah, Hispanic North NM, and parts of Colorado that I can't quite make out...Should be lean GOP on average though, thanks to Utah.
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Lean Rep, I'd guess.
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Hardest Dem in the country.
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Tossup.




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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2005, 03:04:33 PM »
The llano estacado extends too far north, but I guess it has to to enclose enough people right?
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2005, 04:24:19 PM »
Nice Weather is probably lean GOP after all, but Joaquin has to be Dem, it includes the outer bay area, Napa valley, Sacramento, Monterey, all Dem areas.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2005, 04:27:16 PM »
That map looks absolutely hideous.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2005, 09:35:32 PM »
Can someone post this with the counties showing?
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2005, 10:49:00 PM »
Let's break into a few catagories

Democrats get screwed because extreme blowout Dem in Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Bay, and so on doesn't help them in the other places.

I seem to have lost a state, oh well.

Reasonably solid Dem (13):
North New England
Boston
South New England
Long Island
New York
Jersey
Philadelphia
Baltimore-Washington
Detroit
Everglades
Los Angeles
Joaquin
Bay

Lean Dem (4):
North Coast
Land O' Lakes
Wilmaette
Washlaska

Tossup/Unknown (5):
Erie
Cornlands
Atlanta
Delta
Nice Weather

Lean GOP (10):
Susquehanna
Chesapeake
Michiana
Show Me
Ar/Kansas
Pecos
Loving Lands
Rio Grande
Orange
Mohave

Reasonably solid GOP (17):
Alleghany
Sohio
Virgintucky
Wabash
Green Bay
Plains
Pamlico
Great Smoky
Savannah
Okefennokee
Ocalo
Tombigbee
Sabine
Dallas
Houston
Llano Estacado
Rocky Mountain High
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 11:26:21 PM »
North New England: lean Dem
Boston: Solid Dem
South New England: Solid Dem
Long Island: Solid Dem
New York: Hard Dem
Jersey: Lean Dem
Susqenhana: Lean GOP
Erie: Lean GOP

Philadelphia: Dem
Alleghany: Solid GOP
Baltimore-Washington: Solid Dem
Chesapeake: Lean Dem
North Coast: Lean Dem
Sohio: Solid GOP
Virgitucky: Solid GOP
Wabash: Solid GOP
Pamlico: Solid GOP
Savannah: Solid GOP
Okefennokee: Solid GOP

Ocala: Solid GOP
Everglades: Solid Dem
Atlanta: Leans GOP
Tombigbee: Solid GOP
Delta: Leans Dem
Sabine: GOP
Great Smoky: GOP
Sabine: Solid GOP
Dallas: GOP
Houston: GOP
Pecos: Lean GOP
Ar/Kansas: Lean GOP
Llano Estacado: GOP

Show Me: Lean/Solid GOP
Cornlands: Lean GOP
Chicago: Hard Dem
Detroit: Hard Dem
Michiana: Lean Dem
Green Bay: Solid GOP
Land O' Lakes: Solid Dem
Plains: Solid GOP
Rocky Mountain High: Hard GOP
Loving Hands: Solid GOP
Rio Grande: Lean GOP
Washalaska: Lean GOP
Williamette: Lean Dem
Bay: Solid Dem
Joaquin: Lean GOP
Mohave: GOP
LA: Dem
Orange: GOP
Nice Weather (Pacifica): Lean GOP

Joaquin has a lot of rural counties where the GOP piles up huge pluralities, plus some relatively populous counties that go GOP as well; once the Bay Area is taken out, it leans GOP.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2005, 11:53:10 PM »
Quote from: J. J. on February 03, 2005, 11:26:21 PM
North New England: lean Dem
Boston: Solid Dem
South New England: Solid Dem
Long Island: Solid Dem
New York: Hard Dem
Jersey: Lean Dem
Susqenhana: Lean GOP
Erie: Lean GOP

Philadelphia: Dem
Alleghany: Solid GOP
Baltimore-Washington: Solid Dem
Chesapeake: Lean Dem
North Coast: Lean Dem
Sohio: Solid GOP
Virgitucky: Solid GOP
Wabash: Solid GOP
Pamlico: Solid GOP
Savannah: Solid GOP
Okefennokee: Solid GOP

Ocala: Solid GOP
Everglades: Solid Dem
Atlanta: Leans GOP
Tombigbee: Solid GOP
Delta: Leans Dem
Sabine: GOP
Great Smoky: GOP
Sabine: Solid GOP
Dallas: GOP
Houston: GOP
Pecos: Lean GOP
Ar/Kansas: Lean GOP
Llano Estacado: GOP

Show Me: Lean/Solid GOP
Cornlands: Lean GOP
Chicago: Hard Dem
Detroit: Hard Dem
Michiana: Lean Dem
Green Bay: Solid GOP
Land O' Lakes: Solid Dem
Plains: Solid GOP
Rocky Mountain High: Hard GOP
Loving Hands: Solid GOP
Rio Grande: Lean GOP
Washalaska: Lean GOP
Williamette: Lean Dem
Bay: Solid Dem
Joaquin: Lean GOP
Mohave: GOP
LA: Dem
Orange: GOP
Nice Weather (Pacifica): Lean GOP

Joaquin has a lot of rural counties where the GOP piles up huge pluralities, plus some relatively populous counties that go GOP as well; once the Bay Area is taken out, it leans GOP.

I agree, for the most part, except Susqenhana would be rock solid GOP.  Just look at the county map for the area.  That's where Bush got a ton of 70% counties.

Allaghany would be only slight lean GOP.
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2005, 01:43:15 AM »
Quote from: Supreme Dictator TN2024 on February 03, 2005, 03:04:33 PM
The llano estacado extends too far north, but I guess it has to to enclose enough people right?

Just as Delta is too far north, as it best touches the Yazoo Delta.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2005, 02:27:30 AM »
The Bay area has about 7.5 million people. Sacramento has about 1 million. Those obviously have to form half of Joaquin, and then there's still Napa valley, Santa Cruz, Monterey.

As for Central Valley, it's not hardcore Republican, anyways.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2005, 07:42:59 PM »
Quote from: jfern on February 04, 2005, 02:27:30 AM
The Bay area has about 7.5 million people. Sacramento has about 1 million. Those obviously have to form half of Joaquin, and then there's still Napa valley, Santa Cruz, Monterey.

As for Central Valley, it's not hardcore Republican, anyways.

The Bay area, including the surrounding counties are in the Bay State.  There is on fairly populous county out ther, but it went Republican in the last two elections.  All the really heavily Democratic areas is in the Bay state.
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2005, 07:49:54 PM »
I like this map, it would make any conservative a shoe-in the way it horrifically butchers california and new england puts us way over the top
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2005, 11:37:48 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2005, 12:22:39 AM by Polkergeist »
Had a go at splitting up the states according to county and applying 2004 results. Heres CA



Top is Williamette which also has Oregon. Bottom (Green) is 'Nice Weather' which has Hawaii.

Results:

Williamette
Dem   GOP   Oth
48.27   50.15   1.57

Bay
Dem   GOP   Oth
71.45   27.13   1.42

Joaquin
Dem   GOP   Oth
54.52   44.12   1.36

Mohave
Dem   GOP   Oth
43.58   56.18   0.25

LA
Dem   GOP   Oth
63.1   35.6   1.3

Orange
Dem   GOP   Oth
38.98   59.68   1.33

Nice Weather (Pacifica)
Dem   GOP   Oth
46.58   52.32   1.1
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