Rest of World Would Vote Obama in Landslide, Except Pakistan.

[retromike22]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20008687

[traininthedistance]

And here I was laboring under the impression that the Polish still liked Republicans, on account of being anti-Communist and heavily Catholic.

Not even Poland!

[dirks]

You mean Kenya wants Obama to win? Really? Ha, he'll have our country looking like the sh**t-hole that is Kenya pretty soon anyway

no surprise the rest of the world wants the US to choose the weaker candidate

[LiberalJunkie]

You mean Kenya wants Obama to win? Really? Ha, he'll have our country looking like the sh**t-hole that is Kenya pretty soon anyway

no surprise the rest of the world wants the US to choose the weaker candidate

Obviously haven't noticed that the rest of the world in the the sh**ts compared to the US.

[minionofmidas]

Pakistan knows firsthand how little difference there is between these two jokes.

[memphis]

Pakistan is still pissed that bin laden is dead.

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Pakistan is still pissed that bin laden is dead.

You beat me to it.

[GMantis]

Pakistan is still pissed that bin laden is dead.

You beat me to it.

Or maybe they're angry at all the civilians killed by Obama's drone attacks. But I guess that it's alright because a Democratic President is ordering these bombings

[DrScholl]

I imagine that they would want the United States to have a very poor President, so they picked the poor choice.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

You mean Kenya wants Obama to win? Really? Ha, he'll have our country looking like the sh**t-hole that is Kenya pretty soon anyway

no surprise the rest of the world wants the US to choose the weaker candidate

[LastVoter]

Pakistan knows firsthand how little difference there is between these two jokes.

I think Spain is more telling, where probably nearly everybody knows about both candidates but a large minority realizes that both are very right wing and refused to answer(Indignados).

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Obviously we ought to join in and vote for Obama. Why are we not just like every other country?


If the "rest of the world" is so far-left, that's not the US's problem. And I'm not even a Romney supporter.

This is a very bad argument.

[Orion0]

Every election cycle the democrats haul out this completely irrelevant piece of news. What is really suspect is how many of these countries are governed by right of centre parties, leading one to conclude that if mitt Romney was the leader of their own country's right wing party he would be faring much better in these "polls". Even here in Alberta Obama gets 46% of the vote to romney's 19% and we have had conservatives in power here since 1971 & by large margins too (even our official opposition here is conservative). Doesn't make any sense.

[minionofmidas]

The rest of the world is not left-wing (nevermind your actual choice of words), that makes no sense whatsoever to say.
Rather, *part* of the issue here is that every Conservatism is slightly different and that almost every national subsort looks more right-wing from outside the country than inside it - they're all still fighting some battle (or else the left of that country isn't even fighting that battle) that's been put to rest elsewhere and isn't missed by anybody. It's part of the definition of Conservatism, really. You just get few polls about how Germans would vote in France, Brits would vote in Germany, Americans would vote in Britain etc.
And then America is a very big and (for a Western country) quite insular country. Yet its elections affect everybody outside. That exacerbates it.

[GMantis]

Every election cycle the democrats haul out this completely irrelevant piece of news. What is really suspect is how many of these countries are governed by right of centre parties, leading one to conclude that if mitt Romney was the leader of their own country's right wing party he would be faring much better in these "polls". Even here in Alberta Obama gets 46% of the vote to romney's 19% and we have had conservatives in power here since 1971 & by large margins too (even our official opposition here is conservative). Doesn't make any sense.

With his positions, Romney would never become a leader of a right-wing party in Europe, let alone win a election. Most right-wing parties in Europe are closer to Obama than to Romney in their positions.

[Niemeyerite]

Mr. True Conservative: I think it's more likely that the USA is so far-right.

Pakistan knows firsthand how little difference there is between these two jokes.

I think Spain is more telling, where probably nearly everybody knows about both candidates but a large minority realizes that both are very right wing and refused to answer(Indignados).

The low % for Obama is probably coming from conservative people who don't know Mitt Romney but don't like Obama 1) Because he's black 2) Because those Aznar lovers prefer republicans.

But, yes, there are some Indignados who think Obama = Romney.

[BooBird]

We don't care what the rest of the world thinks.  If they feel frogish over who we elect, then let them jump.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Dirks &al. -- I feel like I have to say this every single time such a poll comes out: what you are saying, and in general the Republicans' attitude of alternating dismissal and disdain for the rest of the world -- that's the reason why these polls end up the way they do.

[milhouse24]

It would be far easier to make everyone in the world American citizens; and we can tax them all as well, or steal their oil.

[Orion0]

Every election cycle the democrats haul out this completely irrelevant piece of news. What is really suspect is how many of these countries are governed by right of centre parties, leading one to conclude that if mitt Romney was the leader of their own country's right wing party he would be faring much better in these "polls". Even here in Alberta Obama gets 46% of the vote to romney's 19% and we have had conservatives in power here since 1971 & by large margins too (even our official opposition here is conservative). Doesn't make any sense.

With his positions, Romney would never become a leader of a right-wing party in Europe, let alone win a election. Most right-wing parties in Europe are closer to Obama than to Romney in their positions.

I think that's way too simplistic. Look at Merkel, her platform is essentially the same as Romney: tax cuts across the board, a smaller bureaucracy, increased energy development, and a comprehensive reform of the tax code. It's only bias that prevents one from seeing that. And it's foolish to think that he wouldn't go centrist and drop the abortion stance etc if he was in Europe. You play to the constituents, and America is one of the few places that pro-life has major traction hence his position.

[minionofmidas]

Dirks &al. -- I feel like I have to say this every single time such a poll comes out: what you are saying, and in general the Republicans' attitude of alternating dismissal and disdain for the rest of the world -- that's the reason why these polls end up the way they do.

That too. But that's a facet of what I described, really.

I think that's way too simplistic. Look at Merkel, her platform is essentially the same as Romney: tax cuts across the board, a smaller bureaucracy, increased energy development, and a comprehensive reform of the tax code. It's only bias that prevents one from seeing that.

Especially as it's quite clear Romney has as little interest in actually doing any of that as Merkel has.

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Absolutely. Perfectly accurate. Politicians' stances are a function of the politics they came up in. That's the way of the world.

[GMantis]

Every election cycle the democrats haul out this completely irrelevant piece of news. What is really suspect is how many of these countries are governed by right of centre parties, leading one to conclude that if mitt Romney was the leader of their own country's right wing party he would be faring much better in these "polls". Even here in Alberta Obama gets 46% of the vote to romney's 19% and we have had conservatives in power here since 1971 & by large margins too (even our official opposition here is conservative). Doesn't make any sense.

With his positions, Romney would never become a leader of a right-wing party in Europe, let alone win a election. Most right-wing parties in Europe are closer to Obama than to Romney in their positions.

I think that's way too simplistic. Look at Merkel, her platform is essentially the same as Romney: tax cuts across the board, a smaller bureaucracy, increased energy development, and a comprehensive reform of the tax code. It's only bias that prevents one from seeing that. And it's foolish to think that he wouldn't go centrist and drop the abortion stance etc if he was in Europe. You play to the constituents, and America is one of the few places that pro-life has major traction hence his position.

Maybe, but they're not judging him on how he would run, but how he is running now.

[GMantis]

I think that's way too simplistic. Look at Merkel, her platform is essentially the same as Romney: tax cuts across the board, a smaller bureaucracy, increased energy development, and a comprehensive reform of the tax code. It's only bias that prevents one from seeing that.

Especially as it's quite clear Romney has as little interest in actually doing any of that as Merkel has. [/quote]
Romney would probably carry out tax cuts. If only partly across the board

[Orion0]

Every election cycle the democrats haul out this completely irrelevant piece of news. What is really suspect is how many of these countries are governed by right of centre parties, leading one to conclude that if mitt Romney was the leader of their own country's right wing party he would be faring much better in these "polls". Even here in Alberta Obama gets 46% of the vote to romney's 19% and we have had conservatives in power here since 1971 & by large margins too (even our official opposition here is conservative). Doesn't make any sense.

With his positions, Romney would never become a leader of a right-wing party in Europe, let alone win a election. Most right-wing parties in Europe are closer to Obama than to Romney in their positions.

I think that's way too simplistic. Look at Merkel, her platform is essentially the same as Romney: tax cuts across the board, a smaller bureaucracy, increased energy development, and a comprehensive reform of the tax code. It's only bias that prevents one from seeing that. And it's foolish to think that he wouldn't go centrist and drop the abortion stance etc if he was in Europe. You play to the constituents, and America is one of the few places that pro-life has major traction hence his position.

Maybe, but they're not judging him on how he would run, but how he is running now.

&thats the obvious flaw, it's comparing apples and oranges. This is why this bit of polling is complete garbage and ultimately irrelevant in evaluating the candidates. It's biased on a massive scale.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

The rest of the world is not left-wing (nevermind your actual choice of words), that makes no sense whatsoever to say.
Rather, *part* of the issue here is that every Conservatism is slightly different and that almost every national subsort looks more right-wing from outside the country than inside it - they're all still fighting some battle (or else the left of that country isn't even fighting that battle) that's been put to rest elsewhere and isn't missed by anybody. It's part of the definition of Conservatism, really. You just get few polls about how Germans would vote in France, Brits would vote in Germany, Americans would vote in Britain etc.
And then America is a very big and (for a Western country) quite insular country. Yet its elections affect everybody outside. That exacerbates it.

Point of clarification as I'm not sure I understood this. Is this "battle" specific to the US or is that usage just to mean "battles" in general regardless of place? If it is latter, I'm not sure what you are referring to exactly. What battle do Irish conservatives fight than has been left behind in other parts of the world?