Mormon rituals on camera.

[afleitch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udew9axmdM

Interesting to watch.

[CatoMinor]

Interesting

[DC Al Fine]

Love the pic in your sig Jbrase!

[Zioneer]

Meh, I've done the baptisms for the dead thing (only once, and by the way, the Church tries not to baptize deceased people who aren't directly related to a church member), and otherwise, meh, the rest doesn't seem that weird. The "three seperate gods" and "unlimited Mormon gods" is inaccurate though. There's only one "God", which is God the Father (yes, occasionally called Elohim), while Christ and the Holy Ghost are part of the Godhead, having the same responsibilities and basic authority as God the Father, but not the veneration. And the "humans becoming gods" thing; it's more of a "humans get divine authority and responsibility, but are not worshiped" thing.

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

[afleitch]

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

You're welcome

Seriously, why is showing the world what happens in secret (which I knew of before this video thanks to a former Mormon friend of mine) 'vicious'. How is it 'bigoted?' You may want it respected, I understand that. Scientologists want what goes on behind their closed doors 'protected', so do Masons. If you've got nothing to hide then what does it matter that the public get to see it? Surely if a church wanted to convert as many people as possible it would let it see it's inner workings.

[opebo]

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

Regardless, now that your cabal is about to take over the country, we want to know all about your horrible secrets, by hook or by crook.

[Zioneer]

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

You're welcome

Seriously, why is showing the world what happens in secret (which I knew of before this video thanks to a former Mormon friend of mine) 'vicious'. How is it 'bigoted?' You may want it respected, I understand that. Scientologists want what goes on behind their closed doors 'protected', so do Masons. If you've got nothing to hide then what does it matter that the public get to see it? Surely if a church wanted to convert as many people as possible it would let it see it's inner workings.

The way the guy who posted the youtube video presented the rituals. With his commentary, you could obviously tell he had a grudge against Mormonism. And everyone who has the idea to "expose" Mormon rituals is obviously out to show them as "weird" and cult-like, without any context as to why.

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

Regardless, now that your cabal is about to take over the country, we want to know all about your horrible secrets, by hook or by crook.

Opebo, you are the worst poster.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

"Best" is not spelled w-o-r-s-t.

It's obvious why any secret rituals are going to make people uncomfortable.

[opebo]

Regardless, now that your cabal is about to take over the country, we want to know all about your horrible secrets, by hook or by crook.

Opebo, you are the worst poster.

Why?  I spelled 'cabal' correctly, and I like the 'by hook or by crook' archaism. 

[memphis]

While we're pointing fingers at crazy nutters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpHwKlM_8M

[afleitch]

While we're pointing fingers at crazy nutters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpHwKlM_8M

Oh yes, absolutely.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

While we're pointing fingers at crazy nutters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpHwKlM_8M

That looks pretty fun actually, look at how excited all the people are, it reminds me of people cheering over someone doing a keg stand, or people at a show holding up someone crowd surfing. I'd like to check out one of those churches sometime, I'm sure there has to be at least one somewhere in Minnesota. I do "get the spirit" too even if for me it just means raising hands and sometimes pogo dancing.

[useful idiot]

Interesting, and yes, strange. One would have to be a fairly consistent member though to be allowed to witness these things, which makes me wonder how they obtained the footage.

"Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing secret that will not become known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops"

[Zioneer]

Interesting, and yes, strange. One would have to be a fairly consistent member though to be allowed to witness these things, which makes me wonder how they obtained the footage.

"Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing secret that will not become known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops"

Which is why I'm making the point that either the footage as illegally obtained (isn't certain forms of monitoring in religious buildings illegal?), or at least dishonestly obtained and used.

[afleitch]

Interesting, and yes, strange. One would have to be a fairly consistent member though to be allowed to witness these things, which makes me wonder how they obtained the footage.

"Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing secret that will not become known. Therefore whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops"

Which is why I'm making the point that either the footage as illegally obtained (isn't certain forms of monitoring in religious buildings illegal?), or at least dishonestly obtained and used.

Was this film made covertly? Yes. Do you honestly think if the filmaker said 'I want to film what goes on inside here and show it to the public' they would have said yes? I think it's really good to see. I really find the masonic style imagery intriguing and insightful. I've always been amazed at how 'crafted' Mormonism was and how it echoed freemasonry and the style of the KJV to give it an air of authenticity.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

What's with the cows? 

[J. J.]

What's with the cows? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer

[J. J.]

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

You're welcome

Seriously, why is showing the world what happens in secret (which I knew of before this video thanks to a former Mormon friend of mine) 'vicious'. How is it 'bigoted?' You may want it respected, I understand that. Scientologists want what goes on behind their closed doors 'protected', so do Masons. If you've got nothing to hide then what does it matter that the public get to see it? Surely if a church wanted to convert as many people as possible it would let it see it's inner workings.

First of all, I would note that some groups, perhaps primitive cults of a backward and morally degenerate society, do not like their ceremonies televised.  I've heard of one group of inferiors that, in a politico-religious ceremony, refused to televise part of the religious aspects, a smearing with some sort of oil.  I am, of course, referring to the anointing with holy oil during the coronation of Elizabeth II.

Some groups wish to keep their ceremonies private, and many, including my own religious group which I think we may share, have ceremonies and rituals that can seem strange to nonmembers. 

Second, Freemasons have the modes of recognition secret, but not anything else.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Thanks for rudely posting a video of rituals which are one of the few things Mormons want respected. Really nice of you.

Also, while the stuff in the video may be true, the maker of the video has either done illegal things to get that footage, or he's engaging in vicious propaganda and bigotry.

Regardless, now that your cabal is about to take over the country, we want to know all about your horrible secrets, by hook or by crook.

lol, inappropriate but good use of the language