The People's Party (The People's Thread)

[Talleyrand]

I'm not sure reducing the overall number of Senators is really a good way to go, either.

(But ignore me! I'm not a member of TPP, just chiming in!)

We could then have two classes of regional Senators, a set of four elected alongside the President, and another set of four elected alongside the At-Large Senators.

That would increase the overall number of Senators to 13.

(Off-topic- Wouldn't it be interesting to fun to the "Senior Senator from the Mideast" or the "Junior Senator from the Southeast", etc?)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

You're ignored, Marokai.

I like 10 as a number too if not more, although I still favor giving regions control over electing their own senators. We debated this idea too a while ago and it got nowhere.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I like it - it encompasses what our party stands for in a shorter manner than my long winded diatribe.

I can add it to the first page too so anyone who wants to access it easily can do so.

[Kitteh]

I'm not sure reducing the overall number of Senators is really a good way to go, either.

(But ignore me! I'm not a member of TPP, just chiming in!)

We could then have two classes of regional Senators, a set of four elected alongside the President, and another set of four elected alongside the At-Large Senators.

That would increase the overall number of Senators to 13.

(Off-topic- Wouldn't it be interesting to fun to the "Senior Senator from the Mideast" or the "Junior Senator from the Southeast", etc?)

Ignore me too, but wouldn't abolishing at-large senators mean a huge disparity in voting power? Cause the bigger regions in Atlasia have more than twice the population as some of the smaller ones?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

[Talleyrand]

I'm not sure reducing the overall number of Senators is really a good way to go, either.

(But ignore me! I'm not a member of TPP, just chiming in!)

We could then have two classes of regional Senators, a set of four elected alongside the President, and another set of four elected alongside the At-Large Senators.

That would increase the overall number of Senators to 13.

(Off-topic- Wouldn't it be interesting to fun to the "Senior Senator from the Mideast" or the "Junior Senator from the Southeast", etc?)

Ignore me too, but wouldn't abolishing at-large senators mean a huge disparity in voting power? Cause the bigger regions in Atlasia have more than twice the population as some of the smaller ones?

I never advocated abolishing the at-large Senate. I just suggested making two classes of regional Senators and eliminating the Midwest Region. So basically 5 at-large, and 8 regional, with two per region. Just a thought.

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

I agree about regional Senate elections, but how exactly could the regions take charge of the presidential election?

[tmthforu94]

I never advocated abolishing the at-large Senate. I just suggested making two classes of regional Senators and eliminating the Mideast Region.

Over my dead body.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I never advocated abolishing the at-large Senate. I just suggested making two classes of regional Senators and eliminating the Mideast Region.

Over my dead body.

I think he meant Midwest.... hopefully

[Marokai Backbeat]

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

I agree about regional Senate elections, but how exactly could the regions take charge of the presidential election?

Simple! Presidential voting booths would be split up on a regional basis, and would vote on their own, and the winner of the Presidential election would be determined by having a majority of the regions, as general voting blocs, voting for them. Like a sort of pseudo-electoral-college system.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm not sure reducing the overall number of Senators is really a good way to go, either.

(But ignore me! I'm not a member of TPP, just chiming in!)

We could then have two classes of regional Senators, a set of four elected alongside the President, and another set of four elected alongside the At-Large Senators.

That would increase the overall number of Senators to 13.

(Off-topic- Wouldn't it be interesting to fun to the "Senior Senator from the Mideast" or the "Junior Senator from the Southeast", etc?)

Ignore me too, but wouldn't abolishing at-large senators mean a huge disparity in voting power? Cause the bigger regions in Atlasia have more than twice the population as some of the smaller ones?

I never advocated abolishing the at-large Senate. I just suggested making two classes of regional Senators and eliminating the Mideast Region. So basically 5 at-large, and 8 regional, with two per region. Just a thought.

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

I agree about regional Senate elections, but how exactly could the regions take charge of the presidential election?

There was talk about allowing the regional governors administer the presidential race via regional threads instead of having one thread for the entire election. Ultimately it seemed like it would be too complicated to keep count and it would hurt turnout, but it still may be something we can revisit in the future.

[Talleyrand]

I never advocated abolishing the at-large Senate. I just suggested making two classes of regional Senators and eliminating the Mideast Region.

Over my dead body.

The Midwest Region, I meant, sorry.

[Talleyrand]

BTW, when and where will we have a TPP convention?

[Oakvale]

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

I agree about regional Senate elections, but how exactly could the regions take charge of the presidential election?

Simple! Presidential voting booths would be split up on a regional basis, and would vote on their own, and the winner of the Presidential election would be determined by having a majority of the regions, as general voting blocs, voting for them. Like a sort of pseudo-electoral-college system.

I think there could be problems with that system given the population disparity in the various regions, but I think some form of electoral college system would be a good idea in theory - it'd be interesting to see Presidential candidates campaigning in regions.

On the more general point, I think enhancing the power and influence of the regions is almost always a good thing, so I'd be interested in exploring this.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

BTW, when and where will we have a TPP convention?

A week before the February general election.

I think we should ultimately keep the at-large and regional seats for compromise sake. I just advocated the regions be in charge of their own senate elections as opposed to them going in the federal voting booth. I'd like to see the regions take charge of the presidential election too, but that may be too much for The People to handle at once

I agree about regional Senate elections, but how exactly could the regions take charge of the presidential election?

Simple! Presidential voting booths would be split up on a regional basis, and would vote on their own, and the winner of the Presidential election would be determined by having a majority of the regions, as general voting blocs, voting for them. Like a sort of pseudo-electoral-college system.

I think there could be problems with that system given the population disparity in the various regions, but I think some form of electoral college system would be a good idea in theory - it'd be interesting to see Presidential candidates campaigning in regions.

On the more general point, I think enhancing the power and influence of the regions is almost always a good thing, so I'd be interested in exploring this.

It's certainly a discussion we should have going forward whether we do what Marokai mentioned or simply allow them to administer the voting booths for their regional senators. Opponents will say it will hurt turnout, but I think in the long run it will be good for regional activity even if we do see a dip in turnout on the first election. It will give governors a responsibility to open the booth and close it on time, you know..

[Marokai Backbeat]

It will give governors a responsibility to open the booth and close it on time, you know..

An issue I'm desperately trying to get sorted out in the Midwest before any change actually happens.

But at this point, I think it's safe to reveal Duke and I believe in crafting a regionally based Presidential election system, and it's currently a component of rather large Presidential platform we're still working out before prettying up for formal presentation.

[Talleyrand]

Here are some host cities I would suggest for our party's convention-
-Austin, Texas
-St. Louis, Missouri
-Virginia Beach, Virginia
-Honolulu, Hawaii
-Newport Beach, California

And I look forward to reading your final proposal on a regionally based Presidential Election System!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

TPP and Atlasia,

I wanted to take time to wish all of you a Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanza on this Christmas Eve. I am fortunate to work with a great group of people in this Party and in Atlasia, and on this Christmas Eve, I am confident our best days as a country are ahead of us. To The People, as we go into 2013, let's make this Party a vessel for reform and discussion, and set forth the vision of the new game we all sought to create when we dismantled the parties of old.

Thank you all for joining me on this journey, for it is you, The People, that make it all worth it.

Have a wonderful holiday,

Duke

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

As I'm sure no one noticed, I have returned from NY and am ready for the new year!

We need to pick a convention city for the upcoming elections.

[Wisconsin+17]

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We could call it "Texas".

[Ban my account ffs!]

Happy New Year to the People's Party

[Simfan34]

I second Buffalo. I'm also all for aborting the Mideast.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I second Newport Beach, CA. After spending 5 days in NYC, the warm weather will be a welcome sight for us all.

And Simfan, don't you mean the Midwest?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I nominate Richmond, VA

[Cincinnatus]

I second Buffalo. I'm also all for aborting the Mideast.

Third

[Simfan34]

I second Newport Beach, CA. After spending 5 days in NYC, the warm weather will be a welcome sight for us all.

And Simfan, don't you mean the Midwest?

Yes, the Midwest in all its weirdness.