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« on: September 26, 2012, 08:28:01 PM »

I don't understand the GOP term "Chicago Style Politics". They use it as if its a derogatory term. What are they trying to say exactly?
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2012, 08:30:51 PM »

It's apparently a common term for corruption and stuff like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_politics
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 08:40:24 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2012, 08:44:13 PM by Politico »

Hint: Dead people in Cook County somehow managed to come back to life in order to vote for JFK. You're smart kids who can figure it out.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 09:32:18 PM »

Many politicians from Chicago are corrupt. Obama is a fairly non-corrupt politician from Chicago, but it's not one of the cleaner political environments in the country.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 10:56:58 PM »

The GOP regularly attacks progressive portions of America like Massachusetts, New York, Chicago, and California in order to divide the public. When the last time you heard a Democratic politician say disparaging things about Alabama?
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 11:01:00 PM »

Does the name Richard J. Daley mean anything to you?
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 11:10:18 PM »

Lord knows that "South Carolina style politics" ought to be just as much a byword for corruption.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 11:11:48 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 12:03:40 AM »

Lord knows that "South Carolina style politics" ought to be just as much a byword for corruption.

Tell me about it.  Thanks to redistricting, I've get to vote in the State Senate race between Jake Knotts whose sole redeeming virtue is he's not a mindless libertarian drone and Katrina Shealy, the libertarian drone who he tried to avoid by having one of his good ol' boy buddies file the lawsuit that caused so much havoc with the primaries.  I do so wish I had a third choice.  These two are bad enough, Cthulhu might be the sane choice.

(Note:  I don't mind libertarians in general, just the libertarian drones who mindlessly repeat libertarian talking points without really understanding them or their effects because the people paying for their campaigns hold them.)
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 12:23:02 AM »

They must not like the Chicago School of Economics.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 02:14:19 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 03:29:43 AM »

Hint: Dead people in Cook County somehow managed to come back to life in order to vote for JFK. You're smart kids who can figure it out.

Denying zombies the right to vote is a social injustice.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 03:38:17 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 09:10:55 AM »

I don't understand the GOP term "Chicago Style Politics". They use it as if its a derogatory term. What are they trying to say exactly?

They are just trying to be trolls.  You never hear them say Bobby Jindal is engaging in Louisiana style politics.  If you want to know why the levees collapsed in New Orleans it was not because of Bush.  Just think Louisiana style politics.  Those levee boards were packed with family members and political cronies.  Is Gov. Edwin Edwards out of prison yet?
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 09:33:52 AM »

The GOP regularly attacks progressive portions of America like Massachusetts, New York, Chicago, and California in order to divide the public. When the last time you heard a Democratic politician say disparaging things about Alabama?

Bev Purdue - “Folks are saying what in the world is going on with North Carolina, we look like Mississippi.”
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2012, 10:05:47 AM »

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You guys are aware that the Chicago machine is ran by an oligarchy of rich old Irish guys, right?
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2012, 10:26:20 AM »

Lord knows that "South Carolina style politics" ought to be just as much a byword for corruption.

True, but it doesn't have a catchy ring to it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2012, 12:22:27 PM »

You never hear them say Bobby Jindal is engaging in Louisiana style politics.

Well, considering Jindal's claim to fame is brand new ethics laws everywhere to clean sh**t up...yeah.

Chicago is just a city in America where governance has often been corrupt. FFS, look at Roland Burris (who replaced Obama). And of course, Blagojevich and then that Republican governor who was just corrupt. IL is well known for its corruption. And although Obama never really engaged in the mass corruption himself, he never really opposed it. Just something he tolerated and worked around on his path to the White House. Which is pretty telling, but not as entirely damning as some may think.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2012, 12:29:00 PM »

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You guys are aware that the Chicago machine is ran by an oligarchy of rich old Irish guys, right?

Yes. The OP asked what the GOP meant using the term "Chicago-style politics".
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2012, 12:50:18 PM »

I don't understand the GOP term "Chicago Style Politics". They use it as if its a derogatory term. What are they trying to say exactly?

They are just trying to be trolls. 

Neh, it's a brand name.....like "hey, pass me a Kleenex"  or "do we have any Scott Towels"? 
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2012, 01:47:47 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2012, 04:35:36 PM by LARGE HAM, THE POSTER »

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You guys are aware that the Chicago machine is ran by an oligarchy of rich old Irish guys, right?

Yes. The OP asked what the GOP meant using the term "Chicago-style politics".

Now, as much as I am inclined to think of the GOP as ignorant fools, there are a lot easier ways for them to imply anti-black racism than by using "Chicago style politics", a phrase which has for DECADES implied a degree of lace curtain corruption and machinery that harkens back to the days of Tammany Hall.  It clearly implies a degree of corruption, not some racial code bullsh*t they could pull out of their asses using a multitude of other sayings.
The implications of "Chicago governance" has been around a lot longer than Obama has been president.  And while yes, Republicans do misuse the term for anything Democrats do now days, assuming it's a racist code phrase for "blacks" is ridiculous.  Even if used by Republicans.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2012, 02:03:47 PM »

The GOP regularly attacks progressive portions of America like Massachusetts, New York, Chicago, and California in order to divide the public. When the last time you heard a Democratic politician say disparaging things about Alabama?

Bev Purdue - “Folks are saying what in the world is going on with North Carolina, we look like Mississippi.”
Where is Alabama in your quote?
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2012, 02:28:15 PM »


certainly carries a racial under/overtone when used against Obama, yes.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2012, 03:13:36 PM »

The GOP regularly attacks progressive portions of America like Massachusetts, New York, Chicago, and California in order to divide the public. When the last time you heard a Democratic politician say disparaging things about Alabama?

Bev Purdue - “Folks are saying what in the world is going on with North Carolina, we look like Mississippi.”
Where is Alabama in your quote?

Do you not consider Mississippi a conservative portion of America? Gallup has it as among the most conservative states, and it was disparaged by an outgoing Democrat governor just a few months ago.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2012, 04:06:49 PM »

The thing people always miss about institutional corruption in Chicago is it's quite well run for a large American city, and that this is a long term thing.
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