PPP NC/OH polls to be released tonight; Obama surging past 2008 margins

[Marokai Backbeat]

Wow....all that build up for that? How is 5 points "surging past 2008 results"?

Obama won Ohio in 2008 by (using rounded numbers) 51-47, with a more favorable partisan breakdown. This poll has him up 5 with a less favorable partisan breakdown. I understand you spend your days trolling around the two 2012 boards, but this is very simple math.

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Oh look, it's everyone's favorite word to throw around with people they disagree with. "Troll." How original. Such a simple way to dimiss things you'd rather not have to know about.

You infest almost every thread on these boards and manage to be the hackiest of the hacks in virtually every single one.

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Yes, and? PPP was comparing their results to the actual 2008 election results, not against their poll results of four months ago.

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Which no one denies.

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15% of Ohio Republicans think Romney deserves more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden? How severe is the brain damage of those folks? How does Romney have anything at all to do with it?

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If you're standing up in defense of JJ and Krazen's character, of all people, I think you're making my argument for me.

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Oh look, it's everyone's favorite word to throw around with people they disagree with. "Troll." How original. Such a simple way to dimiss things you'd rather not have to know about.

You infest almost every thread on these boards and manage to be the hackiest of the hacks in virtually every single one.

Only because the hackiest hacks don't post as broadly.  In any case, I wouldn't call MIA a hack or a troll.  He's definitely highly partisan, but not so much that unlike the real hacks I don't think he's either delusional or putting on an act.

Highly partisan, unnecessarily confrontational, contributes very little to substantive discussion beyond the same notes, omnipresent, and on and on. We can sit here and split hairs if you like but I just see this as a semantic argument. I feel sort of uncomfortable drawing this out (particularly with you, someone I actually respect on here, and I feel like the more I draw this out the more it seems like I'm trying to make a big deal out of it when I barely care) but it's kind of weird having this bizarre "aha! I've got you now, Marokai!" response to something I said regarding PPP, as if I'm on their payroll. It just strikes me as, if not hackish, a bit immature; as if MIA is a 14 year old who just discovered his first political forum. And if that's the case, then I do apologize.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I just think my standards have become a little too high for what I expect from others. So I apologize. I should remember what board this is.

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For a poll taken right after the Democratic convention, it really only has Obama doing two points better than the last PPP poll, taken about a month ago. Sure it's better news for Obama than Romney, but this is probably one of Romney's better polls in the last couple days.

Uh no, at this point any expansion one way or the other is pivotal, given how small the slice of the undecided electorate is becoming. Plus, if Romney's support has not grown, then it means that the RNC didn't really sway anybody.

Obama also hit 50% in this poll, which is a pretty big deal.

Not to mention, (though it's not as if TJ needs reminding of this, I just feel it's worth saying) this is Ohio. This isn't a state with a particularly high Obama ceiling. It's a state that has always had a Republican bent with a south that has more in common, culturally,with West Virginia than the rest of Ohio. If he actually ends up winning by 5%, especially after four loud and bitchy years in government, that's a pretty comfortable win.

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/obama-leads-by-5-in-ohio.html

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