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« on: September 03, 2012, 06:49:17 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2012, 06:52:28 PM »

I see nothing wrong with this comment.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2012, 08:06:11 PM »


Neither do I.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2012, 08:19:15 PM »


Me neither
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2012, 08:42:02 PM »


Except that it's false...
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2012, 08:43:40 PM »

Racial diversity is literally superficial by definition.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2012, 09:43:45 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2012, 11:39:44 AM by fezzyfestoon »


Haha right...
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2012, 09:52:47 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2012, 09:54:51 PM by Frodo »

She's correct -the two black reps that the GOP has in the House wouldn't be there if they had to run in black-majority districts.  

And are there any Hispanic Republicans in Congress whose districts are majority Latino?
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2012, 10:33:14 PM »

She's correct -the two black reps that the GOP has in the House wouldn't be there if they had to run in black-majority districts.  

And are there any Hispanic Republicans in Congress whose districts are majority Latino?

The three Cubans and quico canseco, which is half of the 8 Hispanic republicans in congress.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2012, 10:38:53 PM »

Racial diversity is literally superficial by definition.

True
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 12:55:15 AM »

Considering that a lot of speakers were only on the stage to dispel stereotypes about the party, superficial isn't an inaccurate word to use to the describe the GOP.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 12:57:14 AM »

True, but I honestly think it's a nice change from the subtle racism we've seen them use pretty recently.

*shrug*
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2012, 01:01:07 AM »

Considering that a lot of speakers were only on the stage to dispel stereotypes about the party, superficial isn't an inaccurate word to use to the describe the GOP.

Actually, a lot of the people were there because of their accomplishments.  One was the governor of a state; it wasn't like she was a state senator running for some other office or anything.
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 10:42:38 PM »

Racial diversity is literally superficial by definition.

Huh wha?
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2012, 03:32:09 AM »

True, but I honestly think it's a nice change from the subtle racism we've seen them use pretty recently.

*shrug*
Arguably tokenism IS subtle racism.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2012, 09:50:04 AM »

Considering that a lot of speakers were only on the stage to dispel stereotypes about the party, superficial isn't an inaccurate word to use to the describe the GOP.

Agreed; that is literally the only reason the Utah GOP nominated Mia Love to run in UT-04. Because she's a black female Mormon. They had three white guys who had basically the same political positions as her (read: far-right), but they wanted their own conservative Obama in Utah.
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2012, 08:00:43 PM »

Considering that a lot of speakers were only on the stage to dispel stereotypes about the party, superficial isn't an inaccurate word to use to the describe the GOP.

Agreed; that is literally the only reason the Utah GOP nominated Mia Love to run in UT-04. Because she's a black female Mormon. They had three white guys who had basically the same political positions as her (read: far-right), but they wanted their own conservative Obama in Utah.

Or, she managed to consolidate the 'anti-establishment' vote behind her against the 'establishment' candidate Carl Wimmer. There was a very real ideological bent to Love's run and that she was black and female happened to be a coincidence. Now, at the convention, because she was black and female and not a Republican stereotype and gave an excellent speech the media poured attention on her. But the idea some people have here that ethnic minorities 'don't count' if they're Republicans is really stupid:

Considering that a lot of speakers were only on the stage to dispel stereotypes about the party, superficial isn't an inaccurate word to use to the describe the GOP.

True, but I honestly think it's a nice change from the subtle racism we've seen them use pretty recently.

*shrug*
Arguably tokenism IS subtle racism.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 07:57:46 AM »
« Edited: September 09, 2012, 12:21:10 AM by Badger »

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 08:10:05 AM »

even this pathological liar doesn't through Jews on to this list.

Why would she?  Jews have it pretty freaking good in America.  There's no reason to put Jews in the same category as these minorities.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 08:22:22 AM »

True, but I honestly think it's a nice change from the subtle racism we've seen them use pretty recently.

*shrug*
Arguably tokenism IS subtle racism.
I really dislike this idea. Think about it --
Republicans don't feature any minorities: "RACISM!"
Republicans feature the few minorities they have: "STILL RACISM!"
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2012, 08:28:29 AM »

True, but I honestly think it's a nice change from the subtle racism we've seen them use pretty recently.

*shrug*
Arguably tokenism IS subtle racism.
I really dislike this idea. Think about it --
Republicans don't feature any minorities: "RACISM!"
Republicans feature the few minorities they have: "STILL RACISM!"

I think the argument would be that whether the Republicans feature minorities on stage or not is not as important as the policies and electoral tactics they pursue.

I'm not going to "go there" as to whether or not individual Republicans, in their heart of hearts, are racist. But against a backdrop of Republicans actively disenfranchising minorities in states like PA and OH and running welfare race-baiting ads, it's possible that whether or not they put Mia Love and the wife of the Governor of PR onstage doesn't change the judgment on certain aspects of the party's gestalt. Not addressing those issues, or pretending to address those issues by putting the wife of the Governor of PR on stage while continuing to disenfranchise voters, are two sides of the same coin.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2012, 09:30:50 AM »
« Edited: September 07, 2012, 09:42:48 AM by NY Jew »

even this pathological liar doesn't through Jews on to this list.

Why would she?  Jews have it pretty freaking good in America.  There's no reason to put Jews in the same category as these minorities.
remember that "enlightening", comments like this is why you can never enlighten me in 10 lifetimes.

you do know that Jews are the biggest target per capita of hate crimes.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2012, 11:25:32 AM »

even this pathological liar doesn't through Jews on to this list.

Why would she?  Jews have it pretty freaking good in America.  There's no reason to put Jews in the same category as these minorities.
remember that "enlightening", comments like this is why you can never enlighten me in 10 lifetimes.

you do know that Jews are the biggest target per capita of hate crimes.

World Almanac 2010, pp. 128:
anti-Jewish hate crimes: 1010
anti-black hate crimes: 3275

Dated information, of course, but it can't have changed that drastically since then.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2012, 12:16:33 PM »

even this pathological liar doesn't through Jews on to this list.

Why would she?  Jews have it pretty freaking good in America.  There's no reason to put Jews in the same category as these minorities.
remember that "enlightening", comments like this is why you can never enlighten me in 10 lifetimes.

you do know that Jews are the biggest target per capita of hate crimes.

World Almanac 2010, pp. 128:
anti-Jewish hate crimes: 1010
anti-black hate crimes: 3275

Dated information, of course, but it can't have changed that drastically since then.
the only thing dated is your ability to read English.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2012, 12:34:37 PM »

even this pathological liar doesn't through Jews on to this list.

Why would she?  Jews have it pretty freaking good in America.  There's no reason to put Jews in the same category as these minorities.
remember that "enlightening", comments like this is why you can never enlighten me in 10 lifetimes.

you do know that Jews are the biggest target per capita of hate crimes.

World Almanac 2010, pp. 128:
anti-Jewish hate crimes: 1010
anti-black hate crimes: 3275

Dated information, of course, but it can't have changed that drastically since then.
the only thing dated is your ability to read English.
A simple misreading does not warrant that kind of insult.

Anyways...
anti-Jewish hate crimes: 1010
Jewish population: 5302245
hc/c: 1.9 * 10^-4

anti-homosexual hate crimes: 1410
Homosexual population: about 5400000
hc/c: 2.6 * 10^-4

[same source]
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