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« on: August 29, 2012, 09:04:04 PM »



I really wish this were a bigger part of the campaign.

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 09:17:30 PM »

Certainly the amendment would be a very wrong move. As for disclosure, I'm leaning for it; I think the good effects would outweigh the bad ones.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 11:31:17 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2012, 11:34:56 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

80% of Americans opposed the ruling, including 65% who strongly opposed. I wonder if the numbers would be even stronger for the recent ruling where they threw out a century old Montana law on campaign finance. That law was passed by voters in response to corrupt mining interests. The 5 right-wingers on the court want to take us back to the robber baron era.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 11:39:08 PM »

Passing that amendment is something that would be VERY hard to do.  I'd support it, but he can't champion that while he's President - it's just not reasonable (and it'd probably jeopardize the passage of the amendment).
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 11:55:07 PM »

Yeah, as he slurps happily from the billionaire New York teet in his massively unprecedented assault on his opponent. Roll Eyes what a visionary example of decency and honesty
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2012, 12:35:04 PM »

Yeah, as he slurps happily from the billionaire New York teet in his massively unprecedented assault on his opponent. Roll Eyes what a visionary example of decency and honesty

You don't think he would vote in favor of an amendment reversing Citizens United if he were in Congress?

You don't think he'd sign the DISCLOSE act of it came across his desk?

Look at the numbers & fundraising of the SuperPAC's on Obama's side and then look at the numbers & fundraising on the Romney side and tell me they're the same. Obama and Democrats have participated in the system, yes. Have they do the same degree-- no.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2012, 01:13:03 PM »

Oh, I suppose that makes everything o.k.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 05:58:11 PM »


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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »

He is just calling for Disclosure and anti-bundling legislation in the near term, and a movement for a Constitutional amendment down the road, even if it doesn't pass, to get the public talking about the issue more.

I do understand the rationale for the constitutional arguments supporting CU.  But the whole thing still strikes me as really dreadful, with the added influence both corporations and unions get through it.   I mean, these organizations already have immensely more power and influence than anybody else over the political process in all kinds of ways, lobbying, endorsements, campaign support, ect, ect.  SCOTUS judges looked at the American political configuration and found it unjust that these groups don't have even more power than they already do?  Good Lord.
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