Zogby: Obama leads in FL, Romney in NC - unless Gary Johnson is included
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Tender Branson
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« on: August 20, 2012, 01:08:01 PM »
Florida:

47-41 Obama/Romney
46-39-2 Obama/Romney/Johnson

North Carolina:

45-43 Romney/Obama
43-42-3 Obama/Romney/Johnson

http://www.jzanalytics.com

PS: Gary Johnson is on the ballot in both states.
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 01:11:20 PM »
"lol Zogby"
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 01:19:01 PM »

It's actually not this "flawed Zogby" anymore that had those infamous interactive polls in 2006 and 2008, showing Mike Beebe and Bill Ritter losing (they won by about 20 btw).

It's actually a new company called "JZ Analytics", which was created after John Zogby Sr. sold "Zogby" to the Brazilians ("IBOPE") about 2 years ago.

It is headed by John Zogby's son Jonathan Zogby and a few other people from the "old" Zogby company. John Zogby is only a "senior political anylist" at the new company anymore.

So, maybe they are doing better this time ...
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 01:19:51 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 01:21:23 PM »
It is still an online poll right?  I'll wait until after election to see if it is worth paying attention to Zogby.  At least with some pollsters you can look a house effect. With Zogby it is more like a dart board.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2012, 01:26:03 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2012, 02:50:50 PM »
Quote from: Tender Branson on August 20, 2012, 01:19:01 PM

It's actually not this "flawed Zogby" anymore that had those infamous interactive polls in 2006 and 2008, showing Mike Beebe and Bill Ritter losing (they won by about 20 btw).

It's actually a new company called "JZ Analytics", which was created after John Zogby Sr. sold "Zogby" to the Brazilians ("IBOPE") about 2 years ago.

It is headed by John Zogby's son Jonathan Zogby and a few other people from the "old" Zogby company. John Zogby is only a "senior political anylist" at the new company anymore.

So, maybe they are doing better this time ...

the last national zogby poll had R and O tied amongst men and women... so, next !!!
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 03:36:08 PM »
On line -- I am not using it. If I reject a poll by Rasmussen in Indiana because it is an on-line poll, then I can't use this one.

I find it hard to believe that President Obama could be up by 6 in Florida unless Paul Ryan is a complete and severe bomb. If he is.... then other polls will corroborate this result. But I will use those polls, and this one. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 08:07:19 PM »
Quote from: pbrower2a on August 20, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
I find it hard to believe that President Obama could be up by 6 in Florida unless Paul Ryan is a complete and severe bomb.

Guess what?

He is.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 08:13:13 PM »
Zogby was a bit better in 2008, but not stellar.  I'm still skeptical of the company.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 08:31:43 PM »
As much as I want to believe these numbers any poll conducted by Zogby is disregarded by me.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 10:05:03 AM »
how does he still get the money to do this stuff?
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 02:21:49 PM »
Those numbers are believable, but it's Zogby. I'll wait for some sane confirmation.
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