MA: Mideast College Athletic Act (Statute)

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

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[Lambsbread]

There is absolutely no logical reason to oppose this.

[tmthforu94]

Where do their profits from merchandise currently go?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

There is absolutely no logical reason to oppose this.

Agreed!

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Its not the governments place to require college athletic programs how to handle their revenue. Many universities do so voluntarily so mandating it is utterly pointless. Plus I think a minimum of half is way too high. I'll oppose any attempt to mandate this that is above the rate of 25% percent and specifically using said revenue to cut tuition costs.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Its not the governments place to require college athletic programs how to handle their revenue. Many universities do so voluntarily so mandating it is utterly pointless. Plus I think a minimum of half is way too high. I'll oppose any attempt to mandate this that is above the rate of 25% percent and specifically using said revenue to cut tuition costs.

I understand that, but the more the colleges fund their own educational programs, the less government will need to spend on education, so it's a win-win situation: the colleges improve the quality of their education, and the government saves money on education.  If it makes you feel better, I'll introduce an amendment to this bill:

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Sponsor: HappyWarrior

I know it's not exactly what you wanted, but I feel that what you want would water down the bill too much, so I thought a compromise would be the best way to handle this.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Should this be isolated to colleges that specifically take state funding? I know there are few that don't, but just to be clear.

[tmthforu94]

Should this be isolated to colleges that specifically take state funding? I know there are few that don't, but just to be clear.

Agreed - private institutions should not be forced to abide by this.

I actually like the idea of this bill focusing more on rising tuition costs - as someone who just finished the college decision-making process, I can guarantee cutting tuition costs would provide a HUGE relief to middle-class Mideasterners.

Actually, I'd take it a step farther - It'd be nice if this money was used to guarantee each public university be required to implement a four-year tuition freeze.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Should this be isolated to colleges that specifically take state funding? I know there are few that don't, but just to be clear.

Absolutely.  And that amendment is a bit unclear.  What exactly is the 25% for?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Should this be isolated to colleges that specifically take state funding? I know there are few that don't, but just to be clear.

Absolutely.  And that amendment is a bit unclear.  What exactly is the 25% for?

25% of their total funding would go to reducing tuition costs.  That is half of the money they would devote to their educational programs.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Tmth is echoing my concerns more articulately.

25 percent is the max that should be allowed to be mandated by schools that receive state funding and all of it going to reduce tuition costs.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Tmth is echoing my concerns more articulately.

25 percent is the max that should be allowed to be mandated by schools that receive state funding and all of it going to reduce tuition costs.

My concern is that 25% isn't enough.  Would this do as a compromise?

[tmthforu94]

Tmth is echoing my concerns more articulately.

25 percent is the max that should be allowed to be mandated by schools that receive state funding and all of it going to reduce tuition costs.

My concern is that 25% isn't enough.  Would this do as a compromise?

How about 35% or 40%, with all of it going to reduced tuition costs?

I'm still skeptical on this, but if it's going to pass, I'd like to see something through that at least will provide relief to Mideast families.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What exactly is wrong with 50%?

[ZuWo]

I'm fine with the bill as long as only state-run colleges are concerned. If this bill is for state colleges only, we can as well leave the rate at 50%.

[tmthforu94]

What exactly is wrong with 50%?

Unless we're going to be very specific with how it's allocated, such as reducing tuition costs or implementing a four-year "tuition freeze", I think the current wording is very...broad, and state-run colleges would be able to find a lot of loopholes if it just says "educational programs".

Additionally, why not just make it campus-wide, not just for athletics, that a percentage of all merchandise profits be put to educational/tuition-cut use? What's the argument for just keeping it with athletics?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If it's campus-wide campus merchandise, I'd support it.  But some programs self-fund themselves with program merchandise.  If we made them put that money into tuition, those programs would lose that money.

[Lambsbread]

I now see a reason as to oppose this.

Motion to end debate and move to a final vote on this bill.

[tmthforu94]

I now see a reason as to oppose this.

Motion to end debate and move to a final vote on this bill.

Please no. It's good to have debate and discussion - we're currently trying to find a way to make this bill more acceptable to both sides.

[Lambsbread]

I now see a reason as to oppose this.

Motion to end debate and move to a final vote on this bill.

Please no. It's good to have debate and discussion - we're currently trying to find a way to make this bill more acceptable to both sides.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

I now see a reason as to oppose this.

Motion to end debate and move to a final vote on this bill.

Please no. It's good to have debate and discussion - we're currently trying to find a way to make this bill more acceptable to both sides.

I agree.  Should I amend the bill again?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Yes

[Oldiesfreak1854]

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[ZuWo]

I support this amendment - as far as I can see it takes into account all the important points that have been raised during the debate. This bill will get my signature in this form.

[tmthforu94]

Does everyone understand what the definition of "four year tuition freeze"? Perhaps it should be better clarified - how I meant it was a "guarentee" that for all four years, your tuition won't raise. So, even if tuition for incoming Freshmen would be $12,000 your Junior year, you'd still pay what it was when you entered, say, $11,000.