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« on: January 20, 2005, 03:20:02 PM »

To me it's a non-issue and preposterous, but there are some out there demanding reparations.  These people want huge checks cut that would bankrupt the country.  Sometimes corporations like Atena get sued for insuring slaves back in the 1850's.  Of course most Americans agree that reparations should not be paid, and that it is merely another attempt to redistribute the wealth.  Still, this issue never ceases to infuriate me when it is brought up.

A question I have for you all, is if you know of any families that are being attacked for profiting from slavery.  A while back on FOXNEWS, a black reparations activist mentioned a family that obtained its wealth from slavery, but I forgot to whom he was referring.  Links please.
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2005, 03:28:21 PM »

Reparations should have been made immediately following the Civil War by enslaving the Southern Whites for a time under the ownership of the Blacks. 

Say 40 years or till death, whichever came first, so that the whole Reparations project would have been over by 1905.  This would not only have repayed some of the economic damage, it would have worked out some of the hatreds and lack of understanding we see to this day. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2005, 03:56:13 PM »

I would favor reparations to anyone who was a slave in the US.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2005, 04:14:32 PM »

If I remember correctly, the black activist, whom I saw on FOXNEWS was referring to the Duke Family.  Washington Duke was a Confederate who got rich from tobacco farming.  According to one website thoguh, he didn't accumilate his wealth  through slavery and that he only owned one houseslave.  Of course according to the greedy, lazy, commie reparation-mongers, his descendents should be forced to liquidate their wealth and property and give it to liberal black causes.

And what about all of these reparations lawsuits?

I look forward to the day when whites are no longer the majority and when Blacks, Asians and Hispanics outnumber us.  Then they won't be able to cry victim any longer.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2005, 04:29:40 PM »

I remember seeing a guy on Fox who wanted Reparations but he said something like 40 years which had something to do with the time of the income tax to the civil rights movement. It was on Hannity & Colmes. Unless we are thinking of two different people. Searched couldn't find it.

But if we are going to do reparations, let be fair about it.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo27.html
Reparations for Southerners

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2005, 04:53:50 PM »

Reparations are a bad Idea.   David Horowitz (I think thats his name) wrotea interesting article a few years about it titled 10 reasons why reparations are a bad idea.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 04:58:18 PM »

Againsts.

I might have been for it when there were actually slaves and slaveowners still alive, though I'm unsure, but that is not the case so it is not an issue. Let's not punish people today for the transgressions of their ancesters - the sins of the father do not pass unto the son. I have to wonder if there's anyone of European descent that thinks I should give them reparations for what my Viking ancestors did to their ancestors. It's in the past - I'm not responsible for either slavery or Vikings pillaging stuff, so I can't be expected to pay for either.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2005, 04:59:10 PM »

40 acres and a mule!
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2005, 05:00:54 PM »


Around where I lived back in Missouri would be around $200,000-$400,000!  And that's not counting the Mule.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2005, 05:01:41 PM »

I would favor reparations to anyone who was a slave in the US.
Yes.  I agree.
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2005, 05:18:12 PM »


Ah, if you are half black, do you get 20 acres and a goat?
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2005, 05:30:46 PM »

Unless some people were either slaves themselves or were directly affected in some way by slavery, there's no reason to give any of those people reparations.  Reparations for what?  Being distantly related to someone who happened to be a slave?
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2005, 05:35:28 PM »

I will be more favorably disposed to reparations, right after I get Pittsburgh, PA back.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2005, 05:37:10 PM »

Unless some people were either slaves themselves or were directly affected in some way by slavery, there's no reason to give any of those people reparations.  Reparations for what?  Being distantly related to someone who happened to be a slave?

They've been terribly oppressed most of the time since slavery.  In addition poverty continues over generations, so slavery partially caused blacks current dire economic plight.

I agree it is very awkward to make reparations now, but something major should've been done in the 19th century, such as my idea of enslaving the crackers.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2005, 05:38:27 PM »

No Attainder.

I agree with J.J. here.
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2005, 05:38:32 PM »

They've been terribly oppressed most of the time since slavery.  In addition poverty continues over generations, so slavery partially caused blacks current dire economic plight.

I won't argue with that, but that was then, and just throwing money at them isn't going to make anything better.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2005, 05:53:53 PM »

Every living slave in the US should be paid reparations by every living slaveholder, prior to 1861 if living in the Seceding states and 1865 in the states that didn't.

$0 would by paid by 0 ex-slaveholders to 0 ex-slaves.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2005, 07:36:40 PM »

I'm very strongly against reparations. Gabu made a good point, these people have never been slaves, and it's ridiculous to send them big fat checks for happening to be related to former slaves.

The only way this would make sense is if it was during Reconstruction- I would have supported reimbursing actual slaves. That would have been the right thing to do. Now, it's just ridiculous.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2005, 08:26:44 PM »

preposterous idea, whos going to be able to trace everyone to slaves, besides many wouldnt have much good to do with the money
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2005, 08:27:34 PM »

They've been terribly oppressed most of the time since slavery.  In addition poverty continues over generations, so slavery partially caused blacks current dire economic plight.

I won't argue with that, but that was then, and just throwing money at them isn't going to make anything better.

Indeed - they'll probably just demand more, or others will demand money as well.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2005, 08:47:56 PM »

Every living slave in the US should be paid reparations by every living slaveholder, prior to 1861 if living in the Seceding states and 1865 in the states that didn't.

$0 would by paid by 0 ex-slaveholders to 0 ex-slaves.

I agree with the excellant point made by Daniel.
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2005, 09:00:55 PM »

Interestingly, I've heard Johnnie Cochran discuss this.  He's made the point that it wouldn't go to the people, but into community development.  I guess that this would be by census track and ZIP Code.  If so, I would be the beneficiary of "reparations."
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2005, 09:14:42 PM »

It would be hilarious to find blacks with ancestors from VA, GA, SC, and LA being told that, in fact, they will need to pay reparations because their ancestors owned the most brutal plantations in the entire South.

Or, better still, descendents of west African slave catchers in Senegal to Cameroon, who earn less than $500 a year, paying reparations to NYC hood rats who spend $500 dollars a month on basketball attire alone.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2005, 09:27:04 PM »

It would be hilarious to find blacks with ancestors from VA, GA, SC, and LA being told that, in fact, they will need to pay reparations because their ancestors owned the most brutal plantations in the entire South.

Or, better still, descendents of west African slave catchers in Senegal to Cameroon, who earn less than $500 a year, paying reparations to NYC hood rats who spend $500 dollars a month on basketball attire alone.

very nice
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2005, 10:34:56 PM »

Count Southern Whites whose ancestors owned slaves as 3/5's of a human being.

Perfect Reparation.
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