France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

[windjammer]

Guys, Michel Rocard wasn't extremely unpopular during his term.

And if you really want Melenchon and Le Pen to rise, it's the right thing to do!

[Zanas]

I really want Mélenchon to rise (well, rather the FG), and Le Pen has already risen, so... Plus I hate Valls and all he stands for.

[windjammer]

I really want Mélenchon to rise (well, rather the FG), and Le Pen has already risen, so... Plus I hate Valls and all he stands for.

Oh please, dear God, no. This guy is so narcissic.

[Cassius]

Mélenchon has pissed off too many people, more so than Le Pen.

Fabius and Ségo are being touted for PM. LOL.

Wasn't Fabius like... PM under Mitterand? Now that is what I call longevity...

[MaxQue]

Mélenchon has pissed off too many people, more so than Le Pen.

Fabius and Ségo are being touted for PM. LOL.

Wasn't Fabius like... PM under Mitterand? Now that is what I call longevity...

Yes, 1984 to 1986.

[swl]

Fabius prime minister and Juppé running for the UMP primary would really look like we are back in the 80s.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The fact that Laurent Fabius still has a political career, let alone that he's being mentioned seriously as a potential PM, is absolutely, utterly and in all other respects remarkable.

[RogueBeaver]

Hollande took Hash's advice. Valls will replace Ayrault, per RTL.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Valls is pondscum

[Hash]

I somehow doubt Flanby named the Oberst-Gruppenführer for the same reasons I would have named him, but it'll do. Now we just need to pray that Valls becomes as unpopular as the plague and that he doesn't embarrass us further by making crass racist comments.

Le changement, c'est maintenant.

[windjammer]

I somehow doubt Flanby named the Oberst-Gruppenführer for the same reasons I would have named him, but it'll do. Now we just need to pray that Valls becomes as unpopular as the plague and that he doesn't embarrass us further by making crass racist comments.

Le changement, c'est maintenant.

I'm pissed off. Aubry would have been much better, both as president and as prime minister.

[Hash]

This comment on a Twitter account I follow (run by some elitist leftist communist bobo Jewish Arab Eurokrat) was rather fun:

Hollande réussit à installer une cohabitation sans même dissoudre l'Assemblée. Chapeau l'artiste.

ETA: rumours that Duflot is out of government

[windjammer]

ROFL.

I'm not sure the Green Party will support Valls. They will probably abstain.

[Sir John Johns]

The fact that Laurent Fabius still has a political career, let alone that he's being mentioned seriously as a potential PM, is absolutely, utterly and in all other respects remarkable.

What, because of Rainbow Warrior? I think the silent majority actually supported that operation once it came out.

Fabius was also involved in the AIDS-infected blood scandal and he had previously opportunastically switch inside the party from a very social-liberal stance to a slightly euro-sceptic and left-wing posture.

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The radical left never supported Hollande.

BTW, according Le Monde, the job of prime minister was proposed to Jean-Yves Le Drian earlier this morning, but Le Drian declined the post. The name of Jean-Jacques Urvoas is mentionned as Valls's successor as interior minister.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Levons l'hypothèque Valls!

[swl]

They will wait until Wednesday to announce the new government because they do not want to do it on April Fools' Day. The only thing we know is that Duflot and Canfin are out.

[Zanas]

Mélenchon has pissed off too many people, more so than Le Pen.

Well I wouldn't quite say that actually. You know, even if the FN has conquered a dozen townhalls, doesn't mean that there are not still half of the French population that hate and despise everything the FN and Marine Le Pen stands for. I wouldn't say that much for Mélenchon, and I don't like him very much anymore.

Keep perspective.

[Sir John Johns]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

[Velasco]

FdG, like FN, are never going to win an election any time soon

Are you sure that FN is not going to win national elections one of these days? When Sarko and that nasty catalan called Valls have almost the same speech, you can give for granted that FN has already won. The original and the copy, says Marine.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

[MaxQue]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

They are polling very decently for a government party.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

They are polling very decently for a government party.

aren't they predicted to lose like half their MEP's?

[MaxQue]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

They are polling very decently for a government party.

aren't they predicted to lose like half their MEP's?

Yes, but the 16% of 2009 were exceptionnal and often attri uted to the diffusion of the movie "Home" a few days before the election and the fact than PS was stuck in a painful leadership process. 10% would still be among their best results.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

So, de Gaulle had 3 Prime Ministers, Pompidou and Giscard 2 each, Mitterrand 7 (2 cohabitations), Chirac 4 (one cohabitation), Sarkozy just one, and Hollande now reached 2.

[Zanas]

Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

They are polling very decently for a government party.

aren't they predicted to lose like half their MEP's?

Yes, but the 16% of 2009 were exceptionnal and often attri uted to the diffusion of the movie "Home" a few days before the election and the fact than PS was stuck in a painful leadership process. 10% would still be among their best results.

Yeah, they're never gonna equal their previous 16% score anytime soon. Polling 9 or 10 in the Euros would be pretty good.

Now that they are out of government, I predict they will be massively ahead of FG in the Euros. Like twice the score.