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« Reply #225 on: February 28, 2012, 10:14:44 PM »

Mitt wins.
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« Reply #226 on: February 28, 2012, 10:15:22 PM »

They've deleted Hillsdale county results - the last results before that were showing "others" winning there by a big margin.
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« Reply #227 on: February 28, 2012, 10:16:46 PM »

Ok, calling it for Mitt now that I've seen all the counties.

Congrats on holding serve. Onto WA.
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« Reply #228 on: February 28, 2012, 10:17:12 PM »

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If Mitt wants a closed primary - then the indies and moderates go too. Smiley

Nah, just the indies
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« Reply #229 on: February 28, 2012, 10:17:44 PM »

Fox calling for Mittens.
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« Reply #230 on: February 28, 2012, 10:18:09 PM »

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If Mitt wants a closed primary - then the indies and moderates go too. Smiley

They do that by registration, not ideology. Tongue You can't kick out moderates if they are Republican.
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« Reply #231 on: February 28, 2012, 10:18:23 PM »

CNN calls it.
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« Reply #232 on: February 28, 2012, 10:20:30 PM »


Your sweet tears will please me.
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« Reply #233 on: February 28, 2012, 10:20:36 PM »

Looks likes every time I stay awake to follow a primary's results, it goes wrong. Sad
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« Reply #234 on: February 28, 2012, 10:21:03 PM »

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You sure can kick out the Indies. Romney pissing and moaning about Democrats is rich. He wins counties the more liberal they are - the more likely they vote for Romney.
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« Reply #235 on: February 28, 2012, 10:21:16 PM »

Rick was smart to start his speech before MI was called for Mittens, so that he did not need to acknowledge the loss, but alas he is still talking, and talking, after MI was called, so perhaps he should have started 10 minutes earlier.
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« Reply #236 on: February 28, 2012, 10:26:24 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2012, 10:27:56 PM by Torie »

The one place Santorum really did well were the two more rural Dutch counties, Ottawa and Allegan. He won Allegan by close to 2-1.  It is interesting the Dutch are such outliers, after having been in the US for so many generations, yet not having really regressed to the mean much at all. Their very conservative Dutch Reformed church most be a very important part of their lives.

Rick did not do very well with all those blue or semi-blue  collar Catholics in Macomb, or for that matter Saginaw and Midland. Catholics are pretty consistently so far voting for the LDS Mittens, rather than the true blue Catholic Santorum.
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« Reply #237 on: February 28, 2012, 10:27:53 PM »

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You sure can kick out the Indies. Romney pissing and moaning about Democrats is rich. He wins counties the more liberal they are - the more likely they vote for Romney.

I didn't say you couldn't kick out the Indies. I said you can't kick out moderates registered as Republicans. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #238 on: February 28, 2012, 10:29:12 PM »

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You sure can kick out the Indies. Romney pissing and moaning about Democrats is rich. He wins counties the more liberal they are - the more likely they vote for Romney.

I didn't say you couldn't kick out the Indies. I said you can't kick out moderates registered as Republicans. Roll Eyes

Very funny Yankee. We all know that moderate Republicans are a myth outside of the Northeast.
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« Reply #239 on: February 28, 2012, 10:31:28 PM »

Tonight is a great night for the Republican Party.

God Bless Michigan.
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« Reply #240 on: February 28, 2012, 10:31:51 PM »

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Saginaw he is losing 43-40.

Macomb 43-35.

Ottawa, which Santorum won - 50-34 and Alleghan he got 60.

He did about as well in Saginaw (better even, than he did statewide), and just a couple percent shy in Macomb.

I'm not sure where you draw the conclusion that Catholics in those areas voted against Santorum.

It seems to me that he draws especially well from the Dutch, and about average among Catholics.
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« Reply #241 on: February 28, 2012, 10:32:55 PM »

Cheering for Trump...
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« Reply #242 on: February 28, 2012, 10:33:24 PM »

ARGH!  I knew I should've gone with the safe bet and gone with Romney!
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« Reply #243 on: February 28, 2012, 10:33:36 PM »

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You sure can kick out the Indies. Romney pissing and moaning about Democrats is rich. He wins counties the more liberal they are - the more likely they vote for Romney.

I didn't say you couldn't kick out the Indies. I said you can't kick out moderates registered as Republicans. Roll Eyes

Very funny Yankee. We all know that moderate Republicans are a myth outside of the Northeast.

I don't live in the NE.  Tongue  And I bet in my CD, about 15% of the registered Pubs voted for Obama circa 2008 - including me. Cheers.
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« Reply #244 on: February 28, 2012, 10:34:15 PM »

I wonder what the results of the Arizona border counties will be, none of them have shown up yet.
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« Reply #245 on: February 28, 2012, 10:34:25 PM »

Rick did not do very well with all those blue or semi-blue  collar Catholics in Macomb, or for that matter Saginaw and Midland. Catholics are pretty consistently so far voting for the LDS Mittens, rather than the true blue Catholic Santorum.

Eh, I suspect it's more like deja vu in these areas.  In other words, Santorum lost to Mitt Romney's father tonight, much like he lost to Bob Casey's father in PA.
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« Reply #246 on: February 28, 2012, 10:34:35 PM »

Santorum starting to make a push. 30k down with 20 percent left.
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« Reply #247 on: February 28, 2012, 10:35:25 PM »

ARGH!  I knew I should've gone with the safe bet and gone with Romney!
I know, right? But with Santorum's history of last-minute surges, it just seemed like he'd be able to pull off another surprise victory. Oh, well.
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« Reply #248 on: February 28, 2012, 10:36:26 PM »

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Saginaw he is losing 43-40.

Macomb 43-35.

Ottawa, which Santorum won - 50-34 and Alleghan he got 60.

He did about as well in Saginaw (better even, than he did statewide), and just a couple percent shy in Macomb.

I'm not sure where you draw the conclusion that Catholics in those areas voted against Santorum.

It seems to me that he draws especially well from the Dutch, and about average among Catholics.

It will be interesting to see what the exit poll says, if it has that breakdown for Catholics, who tend to be more concentrated in urban zones where Mittens does better.
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« Reply #249 on: February 28, 2012, 10:39:14 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2012, 10:42:35 PM by Alcon »

I wonder what the results of the Arizona border counties will be, none of them have shown up yet.

I haven't looked at the Arizona results at all, but if the exit polls are right and Romney is doing somewhat anemically among Hispanics, my guess is that Santorum might threaten to tie a few counties there.  I would watch Yuma County (which also has a fair number of evangelicals I think) for being semi-close, and especially Santa Cruz County.

edit: Considering that Tucson's county will obviously be Romney, and I don't know if there's more than one other county on the border, "a few" counties might be an overstatement.  He has a shot at Santa Cruz and might not get blown out of the water in Yuma.  I don't remember what the last county is...
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