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« on: February 05, 2012, 11:17:16 AM »

In all seriousness, whether they voted for him in 2008, or think he will win again this year, I can't find a single person who has told me they're voting for him this year.

I hear a lot of "I voted for him last time, not this time" or "ah, I think he's gonna lose" or "I think Obama wins again", ect. But I never hear, "Obama's trying, he's got my vote, ect ect".

Also, I live relatively close to Cleveland, which is the only reason why Ohio is ever a state that can go Democrat, yet I fail to see Obama voters.

Are they a silent majority?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 11:19:22 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 11:20:27 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

I beg to differ. Working at a restaurant, I see young, old, middle aged, all races and backgrounds and lots of middle class. That's what I find so fascinating.

My County in 2008:

John McCain:    48,189
Barack Obama: 40,924
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 11:23:46 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

same thing happened to me in 2004.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 11:27:33 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

I beg to differ. Working at a restaurant, I see young, old, middle aged, all races and backgrounds and lots of middle class. That's what I find so fascinating.

My County in 2008:

John McCain:    48,189
Barack Obama: 40,924

Talk to the next two African-Americans you meet. I can assure you that at least one of them is supporting the President's re-election.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 11:29:11 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

I beg to differ. Working at a restaurant, I see young, old, middle aged, all races and backgrounds and lots of middle class. That's what I find so fascinating.

My County in 2008:

John McCain:    48,189
Barack Obama: 40,924

Talk to the next two African-Americans you meet. I can assure you that at least one of them is supporting the President's re-election.

Well of course. But you could have asked them about Mondale in 1984 or Dukakis in 1988 and basically any Democrat in the last 50 years.

You cannot win with African American voters only. My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks
- Union workers
- Women

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich

While that seems typical of every election, the stark contrasts are sad. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 11:37:55 AM »

Or they just remain silent because they don't feel like getting into an argument with a racist a-hole who blames all of his problems on OBAMA.  I'm not suggesting that all people who are against Obama are racists, but you can always pick out the not so subtle racists by that certain inflection in their pronunciation of Obama.  I'm in NY and still bump into these people rather frequently. I'd imagine it is much worse in other areas.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 11:38:36 AM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

Naso is as out of touch as Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 11:45:04 AM »

Or they just remain silent because they don't feel like getting into an argument with a racist a-hole who blames all of his problems on OBAMA.  I'm not suggesting that all people who are against Obama are racists, but you can always pick out the not so subtle racists by that certain inflection in their pronunciation of Obama.  I'm in NY and still bump into these people rather frequently. I'd imagine it is much worse in other areas.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 12:11:19 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2012, 08:13:44 PM by Stranger in a strange land »

Guys remember also that most people don't feel comfortable discussing politics outside their circle of friends. This is doubly true if there is a racial or cultural barrier. This clip, sadly, is actually demonstrative of the reservations and mistrust a lot of African-Americans have about discussing politics and race with Whites.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 12:12:39 PM »

Shush. Silent, Democrats.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 12:21:45 PM »

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So, one must conclude per his own comments above that Naso neither "talks" to blacks, union workers, nor women. So either Naso is celibate, gay, or prefers women who don't say anything. And there you have it!  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 12:29:43 PM »

No, Naso, you have just surrounded yourself with likeminded people.

I beg to differ. Working at a restaurant, I see young, old, middle aged, all races and backgrounds and lots of middle class. That's what I find so fascinating.

My County in 2008:

John McCain:    48,189
Barack Obama: 40,924

Talk to the next two African-Americans you meet. I can assure you that at least one of them is supporting the President's re-election.

Well of course. But you could have asked them about Mondale in 1984 or Dukakis in 1988 and basically any Democrat in the last 50 years.

You cannot win with African American voters only. My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks
- Union workers
- Women

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich

While that seems typical of every election, the stark contrasts are sad. Sad

Correction:

My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans, and First People
- Union workers
- Women
- Jews
- Government employees

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich
- The Religious Right
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 12:30:27 PM »

Perhaps. A lot of Democrats are probably doing what many Republicans did in 04. "Yeah, the President is kind of a disappointment, but I'm not voting for Kerry Romney!"
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 01:12:14 PM »

There are plenty of white men who are not gonna vote for Romney. Romney's base is the white-collar suburban country-club set. Of course, a lot of poorer rural whites are going to vote Republican, but somehow, I hesitate to call them Romney's "base."

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 01:13:29 PM »

How are you doing, Naso? I do not plan to vote for Obama.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 01:25:04 PM »

How are you doing, Naso? I do not plan to vote for Obama.

So between you and Herman Cain, we have two African American voters for Romney. Can anyone persuade Juan Williams so we can get three?
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 01:46:57 PM »

How are you doing, Naso? I do not plan to vote for Obama.

Why not?
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 01:53:06 PM »

I think a lot of people are waiting to see who the GOP nominee is.  Until this week, it was uncertain.

So now that Romney has iced the competition, then mainstreet voters will determine whether Obama stays or if someone new is better.

I think the last 3 years have been certainly very frustrating for mainstreet voters and if the narrative and prominent issue remains the economy, then Romney has an edge. 

It will also be important who Romney picks as VP, because it will either increase confidence in Romney's leadership capabilities or decrease confidence. 

At this point, voters know what Obama can and cannot do, now they have to decide whether Romney can do better in any and all areas of governing.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 01:56:04 PM »


Correction:

My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans, and First People
- Union workers
- Women
- Jews
- Government employees

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich
- The Religious Right

Two things:
a) if every group in your list votes truly unanimously for their candidate, Romney wins a giant uber-landslide.

b) what are first people? I was born first, my younger brother was second, and my youngest brother was born third. Does that make me a first person? Because I support Romney.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 01:57:36 PM »

Whoever gets the White Catholic and Mormon voters?
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 02:02:55 PM »


Correction:

My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans, and First People
- Union workers
- Women
- Jews
- Government employees

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich
- The Religious Right

Two things:
a) if every group in your list votes truly unanimously for their candidate, Romney wins a giant uber-landslide.
That's not possible anyway because of all the overlap.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 02:08:00 PM »

Naso, the 10 people you are talking about in your area are not representative of the 130 Mio. voters that will vote in November. That's the main point why you are incorrect. The other point is: Wait until after the DEM convention and then you'll see soon a lot more Democrats who will say they'll vote for him. So your original question might still be correct.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 02:11:42 PM »


Correction:

My sense is Obama's base consists of:

- Blacks, Hispanics, Asian-Americans, and First People
- Union workers
- Women
- Jews
- Government employees

Romney's base:

- Whites
- Men
- Rich
- The Religious Right

You forgot:

Homos and the Young for Obama (because of the Age Wave™)

And Mor(m)ons for Romney
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 03:53:05 PM »
« Edited: February 05, 2012, 04:03:23 PM by Politico »

In all seriousness, whether they voted for him in 2008, or think he will win again this year, I can't find a single person who has told me they're voting for him this year.

I hear a lot of "I voted for him last time, not this time" or "ah, I think he's gonna lose" or "I think Obama wins again", ect. But I never hear, "Obama's trying, he's got my vote, ect ect".

Also, I live relatively close to Cleveland, which is the only reason why Ohio is ever a state that can go Democrat, yet I fail to see Obama voters.

Are they a silent majority?

Remember the "tell pollsters one thing/do another thing in the polling booth" effect we heard about in 2008? It did not happen then, but it is happening right now. Many people, especially many white people, are telling pollsters one thing out of fear of being labeled racist even though their opposition to Obama has nothing to do with race as evidenced by their former support for him in 2008.
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