Nevada GOP caucus **results thread**

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

And they're recounting Clark a third time, and apparently Washoe's results were out of whack but they don't want to recount Washoe.

For all the competency the NVGOP has shown so far, I would say this election has a MoE of about 25%.

[Harry Hayfield]

This has gone from a disappointment (at about 10.00pm EST) through legally worrying (4.00am EST) to downright laughable (4.00pm EST). If this carries on much longer (and by that I mean midnight EST) then I can see the person in charge of elections in Nevada being forced out of office by the governor.

[Torie]

Whomever came up with the moniker MJC should be spanked. It is blatant anti ... ?  Anyway, you haven't seen me use it.  In my gestalt, it's infra dig.

I know, I'm just being a crabby old man. Sorry.

[Lief 🗽]

Whomever came up with the moniker MJC should be spanked. It is blatant anti ... ?  Anyway, you haven't seen me use it.  In my gestalt, it's infra dig.

I know, I'm just being a crabby old man. Sorry.

No, Torie, we explained at 1am last night, it is the CAUCUS that is magical, not the Jews who are. It is a MAGICAL CAUCUS specially for JEWS (and worshipers of the heavenly savior, Lord Paul).

[Torie]

If the magic is in the caucus rather than the Jews, then it should be JMC or JMCCBP (Jewish Magical Caucus Crashed By Paulites).

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

If the magic is in the caucus rather than the Jews, then it should be JMC or JMCCBP (Jewish Magical Caucus Crashed By Paulites).

It was an utterly silly and illegitimate caucus that was effectively purchased by Gingrich's casino mogul supporter. That was hardly an attack on democracy and apple pie.

Anyhow, the other candidate's supporters weren't much better. Its worth mentioning  that it was the Gingrich spokesman who said that Romney shouldn't be voted for 'cause he's a Bilderburger.

[Lief 🗽]

If the magic is in the caucus rather than the Jews, then it should be JMC or JMCCBP (Jewish Magical Caucus Crashed By Paulites).

Jew Magical Caucus doesn't roll off the tongue anywhere near as well as Magical Jew Caucus.

[Averroës Nix]

I prefer to call it the Adelson Caucus. He attended it, it was held in a building named after him, and it only took place because Shelly wanted it to. And this name has the added benefit of making it clear why this sham is such a piss stain.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

If the magic is in the caucus rather than the Jews, then it should be JMC or JMCCBP (Jewish Magical Caucus Crashed By Paulites).

Jew Magical Caucus doesn't roll off the tongue anywhere near as well as Magical Jew Caucus.

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[Torie]

Yes, Nevada caucus fans, the problem is too many votes in "multiple precincts" aka ballot stuffing or something, rather than too few, but the good news, is that the number of votes is "small." However, the remedy being chatted about is to just toss out the precincts entirely (so the small number of votes involved gets rather larger when "multiple precincts" are tossed out), which if it affects the delegate allocation means a lawsuit (would the courts have jurisdiction over this?), and certainly a rules fight. And the litigant might be Mittens here, since this is Clark County, although I suspect that Adelson night caucus precinct which Paul swept might well be in play here as well.

The stuffed precinct ballots are sitting in what is called a "trouble box."     I think a new term might just have entered the English language.  Folks are going to say it is "trouble box" time, or they are going to need a "trouble box" or whatever.  Now that makes it all worthwhile!

[Beet]

This isn't the first caucus where there's been fraud. Usually it's just overlooked, but the Nevada GOP is being a stickler. So it's not just about incompetence (though no doubt there has been plenty of incompetence). The problem is with the caucus concept, period. It wasn't designed for what it's being used for today. Iowa only uses it because it allows them to be first bitch. The other states are just stingy bastards.

[Bacon King]

Yes, Nevada caucus fans, the problem is too many votes in "multiple precincts" aka ballot stuffing or something, rather than too few, but the good news, is that the number of votes is "small." However, the remedy being chatted about is to just toss out the precincts entirely (so the small number of votes involved gets rather larger when "multiple precincts" are tossed out), which if it affects the delegate allocation means a lawsuit (would the courts have jurisdiction over this?), and certainly a rules fight. And the litigant might be Mittens here, since this is Clark County, although I suspect that Adelson night caucus precinct which Paul swept might well be in play here as well.

The stuffed precinct ballots are sitting in what is called a "trouble box."     I think a new term might just have entered the English language.  Folks are going to say it is "trouble box" time, or they are going to need a "trouble box" or whatever.  Now that makes it all worthwhile!

The courts should have jurisdiction over this, because the process of the Nevada caucus system is written into state law.

[Minnesota Mike]

This isn't the first caucus where there's been fraud. Usually it's just overlooked, but the Nevada GOP is being a stickler. So it's not just about incompetence (though no doubt there has been plenty of incompetence). The problem is with the caucus concept, period. It wasn't designed for what it's being used for today. Iowa only uses it because it allows them to be first bitch. The other states are just stingy bastards.

I have railed against the caucus system we have here in Minnesota for years. 2008 was the first caucus I had attended since 1992, and the only reason I attended was that the Democrats for the first time had a binding vote for president that allocated delegates. What a disaster. They ran out of ballots so they had to make copies. There was absolutely no ballot security. You were supposed to be able to come in, vote, then leave if you wanted during an 1 1/2 hour window but the guy running the caucus thought we should just wait to vote until the end of caucus like they had always done (when the straw poll was non binding). I doubt there was any fraud, I knew almost everyone there, but if someone wanted to commit fraud it sure would have been easy.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

This is why I can't be that enthused about politics anymore, any real change is shot down or conspired against.   Election fraud, misconstrued "evidence" of racism, media blackouts or announcing primary/caucus winners when 0-4% of the votes are in by the media. 

It's probably going to take real revolution to implement any change in this country, or just watch it fall like Rome did.

[Torie]

This is why I can't be that enthused about politics anymore, any real change is shot down or conspired against.   Election fraud, misconstrued "evidence" of racism, media blackouts or announcing primary/caucus winners when 0-4% of the votes are in by the media. 

It's probably going to take real revolution to implement any change in this country, or just watch it fall like Rome did.

Oh calm down. In this case, just one delegate is at stake maybe. Humans make a lot of mistakes, and well, there were a lot of determined voters out there who wanted to vote, sometimes maybe more than once, or who were not eligible to vote, and slipped in through an exit door without signing in and having their ID checked, and it was a private party affair, and so forth.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

You have a lot more faith in the system (that's hugely biased against my candidate) than I do.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

WE STILL DON'T HAVE ALL RESULTS IN?!?!?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

You have a lot more faith in the system (that's hugely biased against my candidate) than I do.

Hmmm whinging about the fairness of the system and bias against it? Let me guess? Paul

[Torie]

You have a lot more faith in the system (that's hugely biased against my candidate) than I do.

Hmmm whinging about the fairness of the system and bias against it? Let me guess? Paul

Hey, "the system," or perhaps more accurately the random walk emerging out of the penumbra of chaos theory, or whatever it was in NV seemed made to order for all of those perfervid Paulites from what I can tell. 

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Hey, "the system," or perhaps more accurately the random walk emerging out of the penumbra of chaos theory, or whatever it was in NV seemed made to order for all of those perfervid Paulites from what I can tell.  

Put down the thesaurus and make a real point.  Yes, freedom-loving people in Nevada is great for Paul supporters.  But having this debacle able to bury his votes is not something that is good.  

I personally doubt anyone that's not Paul can beat Obama anyway.

[Torie]

Hey, "the system," or perhaps more accurately the random walk emerging out of the penumbra of chaos theory, or whatever it was in NV seemed made to order for all of those perfervid Paulites from what I can tell.  

Put down the thesaurus and make a real point.  Yes, freedom-loving people in Nevada is great for Paul supports.  But having this debacle able to bury his votes is not something that is good.  

I personally doubt anyone that's not Paul can beat Obama anyway.

I don't use a thesaurus, and you won't find the string of words I used in it anyway, except one by one (if you can think up a good substitute for, e.g., "penumbra").

Did you read the tale of travail known as the Night Caucus Nightmare by the way?  It makes for pretty good reading.

[Joe Republic]

Results have just started trickling in once again.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Results have just started trickling in once again.

Key word here being "trickling".

The difference between Paul and Gingrich dropped by something like 400 votes, and Santorum went down by around 0.4% while Romney goes up.

[Harry Hayfield]

Results have just started trickling in once again.

At flipping last! What percentage are they up to in Clark now?

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Results have just started trickling in once again.

At flipping last! What percentage are they up to in Clark now?

63.1%, though the way it looks that is by number of precincts not by votes. The larger precincts seem to be going now (judging by the somewhat sizable change compared to the 50% earlier)