UK General Discussion

[Leftbehind]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/04/north-korea-trident-david-cameron

"North Korea threat means we still need Trident Nuclear deterrent, says PM"

Ever the opportunist. Ignoring that it doesn't even make sense it's lovely to see yet more hypocrisy from the government on what we can and can't afford.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22025035

Like the Mail and the Sun, Osborne seeks to use the tragic death of children to cut the state. f'ing scum.

[You kip if you want to...]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/04/north-korea-trident-david-cameron

"North Korea threat means we still need Trident Nuclear deterrent, says PM"

Ever the opportunist. Ignoring that it doesn't even make sense it's lovely to see yet more hypocrisy from the government on what we can and can't afford.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22025035

Like the Mail and the Sun, Osborne seeks to use the tragic death of children to cut the state. f'ing scum.

I've just seen this on the News Channel. Couldn't believe it. It's one thing when a newspaper says it...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It's exactly what you'd expect him to think, the only surprise (and it's a mild one) is that he actually said it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Anyways, John Cartwright (a frequent candidate for the Monster Raving Loonies and one of their most active members on the internets) has joined the Conservative Party. Insert obvious jokes here.

[Supersonic]

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/04/05/blair-i-would-have-given-cameron-a-
run-for-his-money/

Blair says he would have done better in the general election than Brown.

I think the effect may have been marginal, Labour should have called a snap poll in 2007, they probably could have won with a majority of 25 or so.

[Silent Hunter]

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/04/05/blair-i-would-have-given-cameron-a-
run-for-his-money/

Blair says he would have done better in the general election than Brown.

I think the effect may have been marginal, Labour should have called a snap poll in 2007, they probably could have won with a majority of 25 or so.

And they still would have ended up losing in 2012... all that decision does is buy Labour two more years.

[You kip if you want to...]

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/04/05/blair-i-would-have-given-cameron-a-
run-for-his-money/

Blair says he would have done better in the general election than Brown.

I think the effect may have been marginal, Labour should have called a snap poll in 2007, they probably could have won with a majority of 25 or so.

And they still would have ended up losing in 2012... all that decision does is buy Labour two more years.

For them, losing in 2010 was better than losing in 2012 would've been. For the country though...

[Phony Moderate]

What are the chances that UKIP will profess themselves to be the champions of electoral reform after 2015?

[You kip if you want to...]

Labour's selecting MEP candidates soon. Got my first mailer from an Afzal Khan today, endorsed by Andy Burnham and Unite.

From the leaflet, it seems that Labour'll be using the BNP threat to drive up their turnout, which is fair enough I guess.

[Goodwin]

http://www.zimbio.com/Nigel+Farage/articles/X3YrSq1RAI_/UKIP+hypocrisy+Nigel+Farage+stance+extremism

It appears that UKIP are fielding a former member of the National Front in my council district election this May (South Thanet)

[Supersonic]

http://www.zimbio.com/Nigel+Farage/articles/X3YrSq1RAI_/UKIP+hypocrisy+Nigel+Farage+stance+extremism

It appears that UKIP are fielding a former member of the National Front in my council district election this May (South Thanet)

Glorious. This is my home seat.

[You kip if you want to...]

Even Maggie couldn't win this Tory party a majority.

[You kip if you want to...]

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/miliband-and-myth-35-cent-strategy

Labour apparently running a "35% strategy". Depressing. Does point out the relative ease of EM's task for 2015 though.

Speaking of Ed though, is David's departure coupled with shouts from the Blairite old guard another attempt to destablise EM? Haven't heard from them in a while, so I guess we were due.

[DC Al Fine]

Even Maggie couldn't win this Tory party a majority.

Just goes to show UKIP is going to have to die/merge for the Tories to win a majority.

[Supersonic]

Even Maggie couldn't win this Tory party a majority.

Just goes to show UKIP is going to have to die/merge for the Tories to win a majority.

Waah. I put these numbers into the UK Polling Report swingometer and it gave Tories 305, Labour 303. I died inside.

Also, are any of the UK'ers going to London for Thatcher's funeral? I'm getting the 5am coach down from Birmingham...

[You kip if you want to...]

Even Maggie couldn't win this Tory party a majority.

Just goes to show UKIP is going to have to die/merge for the Tories to win a majority.

Waah. I put these numbers into the UK Polling Report swingometer and it gave Tories 305, Labour 303. I died inside.

Also, are any of the UK'ers going to London for Thatcher's funeral? I'm getting the 5am coach down from Birmingham...

I'd rather gouge my eyes out.

[Siloch]

Even Maggie couldn't win this Tory party a majority.

Shy Tory Factor. Maggie would win a landslide against that lisping marxist millionaire idiot you have as leader.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Are you even aware of what that kind of language is actually code for?

[afleitch]

Probably just an honest mithtake.

[Insula Dei]

Are you even aware of what that kind of language is actually code for?

Lisping marxist millionaires hold a lot of important positions in society. It's important we stay aware of this.

[YL]

Are you even aware of what that kind of language is actually code for?

I suspect on this occasion it's merely code for "I can't think of anything of substance to have a go at him about at the moment, so I'll just produce some mindless abuse instead."

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, then. The Police Commissioner for Cumbria. lol.

[freefair]

I absolutely hate it when people criticism Milliband's appearance or voice and claim they make it inappropriate for him to be head of government- that stuff isn't even politics. And yes, I can imagine him as PM. Not gladly, but I can. It all smacks of conscious and subconscious introduction of the oldest prejudice into otherwise rational political discourse.
A family member speculated- and there may or may not be something in this- that Galloway won Bradford West so convincingly because some Muslim's do not want a Jew as leader of the nation. That's just callous, and frankly, If that is at all true of anyone of any ethnicity, I'd rather those sorts of pond-scum didn't vote at all.
On other matters, isn't it a bit stupid for right wingers to claim they've "won" most debates post Thatcher?. Shouldn't they pretend they think the left have won so they won't try to win for real.

[Leftbehind]

My mother speculated- and there may be something in this- that Galloway won Bradford West so convincingly because many Muslim's do not want a Jew as leader of the nation. That's just evil, and frankly, If that is at all true, I'd rather those sorts of pond-scum didn't vote at all.

...and what would you call that assumption, if not also the prejudice you decry? It's true that many muslims are bigoted against jews, but no moreso (as you and your mother perfectly demonstrate) than christians and jews are bigoted against muslims.  

Not sure how you've conflated the superficial criticisms of Miliband with that.

[batmacumba]

Well, gentlemen, we have got about three years of almost daily polls:





Any chance of UKIP causing a very bad result for Conservatives on multiple strong candidates constituencies, or will conservative electors opt massively for only one of them in each race?