UK General Discussion

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According to the last YouGov poll and the seat Calculator, Labour would have a majority of 116 and the LibDems would be down to the same levels they had after the 1987 Election when they were the SDP-Liberal Alliance.

The following LibDems would lose their seats:

Robert Smith
Alan Reid
Simon Hughes
John Hemming
Alan Beith
David Ward
Sarah Teather
Stephen Williams
Gordon Birtwistle
John Thurso
Julian Huppert
Jenny Willott
Mark Hunter
Duncan Hames
Dan Rogerson
Annette Brooke
Jo Swinson
Stephen Lloyd
Mike Thornton
Michael Crockart
Ming Campbell
Malcolm Bruce
Lynne Featherstone
Danny Alexander
Greg Mulholland
John Leech
Simon Wright
Ian Swales
Lorely Burt
David Heath
Stephen Gilbert
Andrew George
Paul Burstow
Jeremy Browne
Tessa Munt

That would be quite a brutal massacre.

Using a UNS calculator to predict a 15% fall for the Liberals is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

If the Tories fall far enough, they'll still come out in 2015 with 40ish - wounded with any mandate to be in a coalition lost, but not dead.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Labour MPs who voted for the Loughton amendment were apparently:

Joe Benton (Bootle), Rosie Cooper (West Lancashire), David Crausby (Bolton North East), Jim Dobbin (Heywood & Middleton), Frank Field (Birkenhead), Mary Glindon (Tyneside North), Paul Murphy (Torfaen), Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East).

At least one name on that list is... amusing. Anyways, I think all but Field (a very conservative Anglican) and Qureshi are Catholics. Murphy is actually a Papal Knight. Notable geographical concentration in the North West, but I repeat myself.

[afleitch]

Labour MPs who voted for the Loughton amendment were apparently:

Joe Benton (Bootle), Rosie Cooper (West Lancashire), David Crausby (Bolton North East), Jim Dobbin (Heywood & Middleton), Frank Field (Birkenhead), Mary Glindon (Tyneside North), Paul Murphy (Torfaen), Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East).

At least one name on that list is... amusing. Anyways, I think all but Field (a very conservative Anglican) and Qureshi are Catholics. Murphy is actually a Papal Knight. Notable geographical concentration in the North West, but I repeat myself.

And Frank doesn't half love getting on his high horse about broken families.

Being a 70-year-old bachelor really qualifies you as an expert on these matters apparently.

It works for the Catholic Church; we have 70 year old bachelors declaring themselves sex, marriage and family experts.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/21/tebbit-gay-marriage-lesbian-queen

And these people wonder what makes them "Swivel-eyed".

And a new twist in loongate:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/21/jeremy-paxman-ive-heard-senior-tories-call-activists-swivel-eyed-loons-3803270/

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This exchange was retweeted by Leeds Labour yesterday. Charming.

[Phony Moderate]

Sounds as if there's been a serious attack in Woolwich.

[Phony Moderate]

Some very disturbing rumours about the incident going around right now....I suppose we should wait for more official sources.

[Goodwin]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

One man dead apparently (possibly a soldier), 2 others seriously injured. The word on twitter/facebook is that someone was beheaded? Lots of knives found at the scene.   

[Goodwin]

Various media outlets now reporting that Police are treating this as a TERROR ATTACK.

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Thoughts have to go out to the poor bloke.

[Silent Hunter]

Various media outlets now reporting that Police are treating this as a TERROR ATTACK.

The two suspects of course dead, but something may well turn up in their residences.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims.

[HansOslo]

Various media outlets now reporting that Police are treating this as a TERROR ATTACK.

The two suspects of course dead, but something may well turn up in their residences.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims.

Is it confirmed that the attackers are dead?

[Silent Hunter]

Sorry, my mistake - attackers are alive and in custody in hospital after being shot by police. No other injuries.

[Goodwin]

ITV News have just shown a clip of one of the attackers talking to the public after they've killed the guy in the street. Blood soaked hands and meat cleavers in hand with the dead man in the background - i presume the police shot at them afterwards. Just barbaric in broad daylight outside of a primary school. Disgusting.

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ITV News have just shown a clip of one of the attackers talking to the public after they've killed the guy in the street. Blood soaked hands and meat cleavers in hand with the dead man in the background - i presume the police shot at them afterwards. Just barbaric in broad daylight outside of a primary school. Disgusting.

ITV thought it was tasteful to air that at 6pm, huh?

I only saw BBC at 6, they didn't have it, but I imagine they wouldn't at that time considering how fast this is progressing.

EDIT: I've just seen a screenshot. Surely that's not okay to air?

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Muslims on Twitter unhappy with how media are perjuring the phrase "Allahu Akbar". And it's not even confirmed that it was said.

[Leftbehind]

ITV EXCLUSIVE

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Any major Islam-bashing started yet? I'm sure the Heil will be working on their front page right now.

[Goodwin]

Any major Islam-bashing started yet? I'm sure the Heil will be working on their front page right now.

The idiotic ignorant folk who belong to the English Defense League will be having a field day. A couple of people on my Fb have already started the Islam bashing.

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Any major Islam-bashing started yet? I'm sure the Heil will be working on their front page right now.

The idiotic ignorant folk who belong to the English Defense League will be having a field day. A couple of people on my Fb have already started the Islam bashing.

I'm unfollowing anyone I see spouting bigotry. Usual procedure.

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Just watched the ITV report. They reporter said that it was "the day Baghdad style violence came to London".

I HATE THE MEDIA.

[Goodwin]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/481781_602553116423307_1092879202_n.jpg

This pic doing the rounds on facebook. I fear more riots. 

[DC Al Fine]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/481781_602553116423307_1092879202_n.jpg

This pic doing the rounds on facebook. I fear more riots. 

What the heck ever happened to the BNP? You'd think they'd be all over the press/surging in the polls in the wake of this.

[MaxQue]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/481781_602553116423307_1092879202_n.jpg

This pic doing the rounds on facebook. I fear more riots. 

What the heck ever happened to the BNP? You'd think they'd be all over the press/surging in the polls in the wake of this.

They collapsed due to internal problems. It's quite common on the fringes, everyone wants to leads and that's getting bloody.

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/481781_602553116423307_1092879202_n.jpg

This pic doing the rounds on facebook. I fear more riots. 

What the heck ever happened to the BNP? You'd think they'd be all over the press/surging in the polls in the wake of this.

They collapsed due to internal problems. It's quite common on the fringes, everyone wants to leads and that's getting bloody.

Don't be shocked to see UKIP start playing with fire over this though. They've been known to do similar.