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« on: January 23, 2012, 02:20:32 PM »

Gingrich-Romney becomes a marathon slog, both seriously injured, and Paul is able to accrue enough delegates through obscure caucus victories to be the mathematical kingmaker.  write the rest of the story.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 02:24:38 PM »

Gingrich-Romney becomes a marathon slog, both seriously injured, and Paul is able to accrue enough delegates through obscure caucus victories to be the mathematical kingmaker.  write the rest of the story.

If Newt wins FL, I don't see how Romney can make it a long race.  After all, the 10% of Santorum supporters will start to jump ship after FL and they're unlikely to favor Romney.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 02:28:38 PM »

I really don't think Paul will accept anything but the nomination or possibly the right to rewrite the GOP platform.

That's where the possibility of a compromise candidate between Romney and Gingrich supporters will come in.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 02:30:58 PM »

Gingrich-Romney becomes a marathon slog, both seriously injured, and Paul is able to accrue enough delegates through obscure caucus victories to be the mathematical kingmaker.  write the rest of the story.

Imagine cracking open a Blue Moon Summer Honey Wheat Ale and watching the spectacle unfold on the convention floor in Tampa. While the Mets may be in 4th place at that time, life, all in all, would be pretty damn good.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 02:33:03 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past.  
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 02:33:29 PM »

Daniels/Ryan/Palin ride in on a white horse and eventually receive a majority of delegates. They get trounced in November due to a weaker national organization and economic recovery.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 02:46:47 PM »

How likely is it that Romney and Gingrich could reach a compromise?  Newt is pretty much after Mitt's blood after Romney destroying his chances in Iowa and I doubt relations would improve between them after a long, bitter primary campaign.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2012, 02:56:05 PM »

Daniels/Ryan/Palin ride in on a white horse and eventually receive a majority of delegates. They get trounced in November due to a weaker national organization and economic recovery.

That really couldn't work in this day and age because it wouldn't be fair to the millions of people who would have voted for Romney or Gingrich. To choose a non-candidate that nobody voted for would send the wrong message, and as likely as not would lead to a disaster in November.
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2012, 03:05:37 PM »

Daniels/Ryan/Palin ride in on a white horse and eventually receive a majority of delegates. They get trounced in November due to a weaker national organization and economic recovery.

That really couldn't work in this day and age because it wouldn't be fair to the millions of people who would have voted for Romney or Gingrich. To choose a non-candidate that nobody voted for would send the wrong message, and as likely as not would lead to a disaster in November.
Then again, the current crop of candidates (even now after most have been eliminated) is weak and unappealing. I think most voters would actually prefer a compromise candidate.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 03:10:59 PM »

Paul's stealth delegates win him the nomination.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 04:37:51 PM »

The Republicans do their best 1968 Democratic Convention impression.

The caucus system is abolished in 2016.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 04:40:52 PM »

The Republicans do their best 1968 Democratic Convention impression.

The caucus system is abolished in 2016.

Suits me.  The whole primary system abolished as well, hopefully.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 05:01:57 PM »

The Republicans do their best 1968 Democratic Convention impression.

The caucus system is abolished in 2016.

Suits me.  The whole primary system abolished as well, hopefully.

the jmfcsts would never allow the primary system to be abolished
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »

Whoever has the most delegates between Romney and Gingrich gets to be at the top of the ticket and whoever has the second most delegates gets to be on the bottom. They obviously hate each other but they love the idea of being President or Vice President far more than they hate the other.

If there's some weirdo situation where Mitt + Gingrich ends up not equalling 50% of the delegates though, then we have a problem.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 05:09:45 PM »

The Republicans do their best 1968 Democratic Convention impression.

The caucus system is abolished in 2016.

Suits me.  The whole primary system abolished as well, hopefully.


It has its flaws, but it's better than having party bosses pick the candidates behind closed doors.
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 05:40:06 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past.  


And then Ron Paul invents the warp drive and founds the United Federation of Planets. Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 05:54:13 PM »

Gingrich and Romney step aside for a compromise candidate, Jeb Bush or Mitch Daniels, dare I say my man, who narrowly wins come November.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 05:59:20 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past.  


…with US Navy no longer ensuring open sea lanes:  Russia annexes the Sea of Okhotsk, Arctic Ocean, Barents Sea, Kara Sea, northern Caspian Sea, Black Sea, Bering Sea…China annexes East and South China Sea, Philippine Sea…Iran annexes Persian Gulf…Egypt closes Suez Canal to vessels bound for the West…Drug Lords close Panama Canal.

…and the world suddenly becomes a much safer and prosperous place in accordance to the utopian ideas of the great and all-knowing Ron Paul.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 06:04:33 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past.  


…with US Navy no longer ensuring open sea lanes:  Russia annexes the Sea of Okhotsk, Arctic Ocean, Barents Sea, Kara Sea, northern Caspian Sea, Black Sea, Bering Sea…China annexes East and South China Sea, Philippine Sea…Iran annexes Persian Gulf…Egypt closes Suez Canal to vessels bound for the West…Drug Lords close Panama Canal.

…and the world suddenly becomes a much safer and prosperous place in accordance to the utopian ideas of the great and all-knowing Ron Paul.


Because the rest of the world (that which isn't controlled by or allied with the US) is filled with cartoonishly evil supervillains who hate making their people prosperous and would prefer engaging in piracy, 18th century style.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 06:11:45 PM »

Because the rest of the world (that which isn't controlled by or allied with the US) is filled with cartoonishly evil supervillains who hate making their people prosperous and would prefer engaging in piracy, 18th century style.

the 20th Century examples of Germany and Japan work just as well.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 06:15:53 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past. 


…with US Navy no longer ensuring open sea lanes:  Russia annexes the Sea of Okhotsk, Arctic Ocean, Barents Sea, Kara Sea, northern Caspian Sea, Black Sea, Bering Sea…China annexes East and South China Sea, Philippine Sea…Iran annexes Persian Gulf…Egypt closes Suez Canal to vessels bound for the West…Drug Lords close Panama Canal.

…and the world suddenly becomes a much safer and prosperous place in accordance to the utopian ideas of the great and all-knowing Ron Paul.


Because the rest of the world (that which isn't controlled by or allied with the US) is filled with cartoonishly evil supervillains who hate making their people prosperous and would prefer engaging in piracy, 18th century style.

How would doing such things not advance the interests of those nations? You overestimate the value of material wealth and underestimate nationalism- and that's not to say dominating trade in those regions would harm the economies of those nations.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 06:24:27 PM »

How would doing such things not advance the interests of those nations? You overestimate the value of material wealth and underestimate nationalism- and that's not to say dominating trade in those regions would harm the economies of those nations.

what was Germany's rational for WWII?  What was Japan's rational for WWII?

Germany and Japan are NOT historical anomalies.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 06:25:35 PM »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past. 


…with US Navy no longer ensuring open sea lanes:  Russia annexes the Sea of Okhotsk, Arctic Ocean, Barents Sea, Kara Sea, northern Caspian Sea, Black Sea, Bering Sea…China annexes East and South China Sea, Philippine Sea…Iran annexes Persian Gulf…Egypt closes Suez Canal to vessels bound for the West…Drug Lords close Panama Canal.

…and the world suddenly becomes a much safer and prosperous place in accordance to the utopian ideas of the great and all-knowing Ron Paul.


Because the rest of the world (that which isn't controlled by or allied with the US) is filled with cartoonishly evil supervillains who hate making their people prosperous and would prefer engaging in piracy, 18th century style.

How would doing such things not advance the interests of those nations? You overestimate the value of material wealth and underestimate nationalism- and that's not to say dominating trade in those regions would harm the economies of those nations.

Why doesn't the US do it? You don't seem any more altruistic or friendly than the rest of the tin pot superpowers.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2012, 06:39:54 PM »

The Republicans do their best 1968 Democratic Convention impression.

The caucus system is abolished in 2016.

Suits me.  The whole primary system abolished as well, hopefully.

the jmfcsts would never allow the primary system to be abolished
I certainly do think that this system is entertaining despite it being undemocratic, but if Paul has any power, jmfcst's would be first to want to abolish the system.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2012, 06:42:34 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2012, 06:48:59 PM by seatown »


Mitt Romney agrees to release his delegates and they vote for Ron Paul, who is nominated as GOP candidate.  After a heated general election campaign, the people of the United States elect Ron Paul the president in November.  Half the bureaucracy of the government disappears within six months of President Paul's inauguration.  Military troops are brought home from all over the world.  Trade sanctions with, and travel restrictions to, Cuba end abruptly.  The federal reserve board is dismantled.  Tax burdens maintained long enough to pay off the federal debt then reduced dramatically.  Commerce rebounds.  The unemployment rate falls.  Peace and prosperity ensues, at first only on the North American continent, but eventually, as the example of liberty catches on, all over the world.  Famine, war, hunger, poverty, and strife become a thing of the past.  



…with US Navy no longer ensuring open sea lanes:  Russia annexes the Sea of Okhotsk, Arctic Ocean, Barents Sea, Kara Sea, northern Caspian Sea, Black Sea, Bering Sea…China annexes East and South China Sea, Philippine Sea…Iran annexes Persian Gulf…Egypt closes Suez Canal to vessels bound for the West…Drug Lords close Panama Canal.

…and the world suddenly becomes a much safer and prosperous place in accordance to the utopian ideas of the great and all-knowing Ron Paul.

My country is too incompetent to do that buddy.
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