Challenge for map makers: white liberal districts

[Flake]

Looks like the first attempts missed the opportunity for a white, liberal, relatively-compact ATL district.

District in blue is 58% white (60% VAP) & 60% Obama.

There was even enough left over to create a marginally white liberal gerrymander that resembled the previous GA ones - 53% white (56% VAP) & 53% Obama.

Where are you guys getting these maps, I would love to get to use it!

[Miles]

Where are you guys getting these maps, I would love to get to use it!

Dave's Redistricting App.

[Flake]

Where are you guys getting these maps, I would love to get to use it!

Dave's Redistricting App.

Thank you!

[Flake]

So I made two majority-white districts that voted for Obama in Mississippi.



District 1 (blue) is 50.5% white and 45.7% black. The district would have voted for Obama 50.4% and McCain 48.9%

District 2 (green) is 52.0% white and 43.3% black. This district would have voted for Obama 50.0% to 49.3%

The other two districts voted McCain over Obama by 65ish to 33ish.

[Miles]

So I made two majority-white districts that voted for Obama in Mississippi.



District 1 (blue) is 50.5% white and 45.7% black. The district would have voted for Obama 50.4% and McCain 48.9%

District 2 (green) is 52.0% white and 43.3% black. This district would have voted for Obama 50.0% to 49.3%

The other two districts voted McCain over Obama by 65ish to 33ish.

Your deviations are too high; the numbers in that column need to be as low as possible.

[Flake]

[muon2]

You can't split a district with another one, either. But the populations look good.

[JerryArkansas]

[Flake]

Wow, nice work Jerry!

[Fed. Pac. Chairman Devin]

Wouldn't pretty much all of these classify as a gerrymander?

[Miles]

Wouldn't pretty much all of these classify as a gerrymander?

Yep.

[muon2]

Wouldn't pretty much all of these classify as a gerrymander?

Or looking at the recent AR offering, a Jerrymander.

[Mr. Illini]

Would be intrigued if someone did one for Illinois.

[nclib]

This was a good thread and still more states to do. Though a lot of these states (in particular Wisconsin) would look very different if this was done for 2016 as it would be less white and less rural.

Now that Oregon now has data, here's a White + Obama 161.1 CD in purple. This is almost as high as Vermont and higher than anything else except possibly Mass. or the Bay Area. It goes from Portland to Ashland through Salem, Corvallis, and Eugene. I'm not sure how to just show the purple CD or make a close up of the denser areas.

[Mr. Illini]

Just made one for IL but the plugin crashed right as I was finishing up

It looked something like the link below and was 75-80% white and 75-80% Obama.

Essentially you have the whitest parts of the north side of Chicago (Near North, Lincoln Park, Lakeview, Bucktown, North Center, Lincoln Square, Norwood Park, Forest Glen, Edison Park) plus suburbs that are very liberal and white (Evanston, Wilmette, Skokie, Glencoe, Highland Park, Deerfield) plus a host of very white, 60+% Obama suburbs (Buffalo Grove, Winnetka, Vernon Hills, Northfield, parts of Wheeling, Glenview, and Niles).

https://ibb.co/mG1pQk

[nclib]

Here's another one for Illinois. The yellow district #5 is 74.7% white VAP and 77.3% Obama.

[Torie]

Here is my little Trump-proof effort for my area of the Hudson Valley.

[Adam Griffin]

Here are 2 majority-white, majority-Obama Alabama districts (one more realistic, one gerrymandered) + a VRA-compliant seat:

[nclib]

Here's my crack at New Jersey:



64.1 White, (67.1 VAP); 67.3 Obama.  Centered around suburban Camden and Mercer, with a connecting strip along the river in Burlington.  Avoids Camden and Willingboro to keep the white percentage up, but takes in part of Trenton, it's unavoidable if you want to grab Ewing and Princeton, and this district definitely wants Princeton.  You could probably boost it a couple points if you split more towns (there's a bunch of territory all over South Jersey which could credibly go in this district); I did a handful but tried to avoid going completely overboard.

I tried to make something in the north, stringing together Hoboken and Montclair and the like, but that part of the state is just so much more diverse.

Here's north Jersey. (yellow CD 5):

Numbers (84.0% white VAP, 51.6% Obama) are better, but map is far less compact.

[Torie]

Who said gerrymanders need to be hideously ugly? Here's my Dem gerrymander for upstate NY. Of the 12 CD's in play, two CD's up there went for McCain, with the grey CD a Pub vote sink pretty much, one more went for Obama but has a modest Pub PVI, two have swing PVI's (with one needing a prong to take in the city of Binghamton to be swing since the other Dem areas near it were used to put the powder blue  Hudson Valley CD into the Dem column), and the remaining seven are out of reach of the Pubs, up from four CD's out of reach for the Pubs now. Only the grey CD is out of reach for the Dems.

[Figueira]

I'm trying to imagine a Provincetown-to-Williamstown district in Massachusetts that doesn't use water connectivity and also leaves population equal to whole districts on either side.

No need to go all the way to Provincetown. There are too many conservative areas in between.

This district is 83.1% white, 72.2% Obama:

[muon2]

I'm trying to imagine a Provincetown-to-Williamstown district in Massachusetts that doesn't use water connectivity and also leaves population equal to whole districts on either side.

No need to go all the way to Provincetown. There are too many conservative areas in between.

This district is 83.1% white, 72.2% Obama:

I can't be certain about the eastern end, but it looks like you have put my daughter and her grandparents in the same CD.

[Figueira]

I'm trying to imagine a Provincetown-to-Williamstown district in Massachusetts that doesn't use water connectivity and also leaves population equal to whole districts on either side.

No need to go all the way to Provincetown. There are too many conservative areas in between.

This district is 83.1% white, 72.2% Obama:

I can't be certain about the eastern end, but it looks like you have put my daughter and her grandparents in the same CD.

I think I drew a bunch of my Boston-area relatives into the same district as me, as well.

I might actually try the Provincetown to Williamstown thing that Brittain33 suggested later tonight, even though it isn't actually the best way to fulfill this challenge.

[nclib]

I'm trying to imagine a Provincetown-to-Williamstown district in Massachusetts that doesn't use water connectivity and also leaves population equal to whole districts on either side.

No need to go all the way to Provincetown. There are too many conservative areas in between.

This district is 83.1% white, 72.2% Obama:

I can't be certain about the eastern end, but it looks like you have put my daughter and her grandparents in the same CD.

I think I drew a bunch of my Boston-area relatives into the same district as me, as well.

I might actually try the Provincetown to Williamstown thing that Brittain33 suggested later tonight, even though it isn't actually the best way to fulfill this challenge.

I got this up to 161.2% (84.8% white VAP, 76.4% Obama). I didn't think it was worth going into Provincetown/Dukes/Nantucket.






BTW, has anyone tried the Bay Area? On my browser, I can't get election results for Calif on DRA.