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« on: December 31, 2004, 03:19:01 PM »

Article I, Section 7.
Clause 3: Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

Obviously a presidential veto would be pretty much useless since 2/3 would probably just repass the amendment, but I'm just wondering. With normal bills, even if it gets a 2/3 vote, it is presented to the president, right?
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2005, 12:05:59 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2005, 12:33:05 PM by Philip »

The President serves no role in ammending the Constitution.

It says every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary. While I realize a presidential veto would be worthless, it seems to me that it should be presented to him.

Anyway, I never thought he had anything to do with the process, and I don't think that he should, but my question is why?
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2005, 12:45:15 AM »

Article V.
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

The States ratify of Constitutional Amendments.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2005, 10:36:16 AM »

I know that.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2005, 10:45:18 AM »

I think the standard interpretation is that a proposed constitutional amendment is not an order, resolution or vote. I agree the wording is ambiguous.
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