The Liberal Party.

[Mopsus]

If you give me one day I could do it.

Go for it.

[Peeperkorn]

And I would be grateful if Oakvale appears and tell me what he likes and what he doesn't. The same with Teddy, Dallas, Napo and Scotty.

[Mopsus]

I'll try to catch the essential points of the previous platforms. Obviously, I would need a language corrector.

If you complete any provisions tomorrow, feel free to send them to me. Although if you want someone to correct them tonight, you might want someone else, since I'll be going to bed soon.

[Peeperkorn]

I'll try to catch the essential points of the previous platforms. Obviously, I would need a language corrector.

If you complete any provisions tomorrow, feel free to send them to me. Although if you want someone to correct them tonight, you might want someone else, since I'll be going to bed soon.

Nope. Tonight is Scotch night.


Anyway, you can join me in mibbit.con #atlasforum.

[Peeperkorn]

Oh, well, In 24 hours it will be ready.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I dont like the idea of writing controversial policy planks in the platform, unless we also specify that we support the ability of our members to vote their conscience (which would be one of our planks)

As an example using things we'd never agree with
The party supports eating eggs raw
The party supports cooking steak until it's black
The party supports drinking window washer
The party supports allowing it's individual members moral freedom on dietary issues.

[Peeperkorn]

I dont like the idea of writing controversial policy planks in the platform, unless we also specify that we support the ability of our members to vote their conscience (which would be one of our planks)

As an example using things we'd never agree with
The party supports eating eggs raw
The party supports cooking steak until it's black
The party supports drinking window washer
The party supports allowing it's individual members moral freedom on dietary issues.

Propose your ideas, Teddy.

[Oakvale]

I think Napoleon and Scott's proposed platforms are actually fine for a left-liberal party, FWIW.

[Peeperkorn]

I was trying but my lack of English skills just let me repeat what the others had writen. Seems like in an English board I'm kind of useless.

[Peeperkorn]

And YES, you can insult me for whatever reasons you want.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

And YES, you can insult me for whatever reasons you want.

YOU SMELL

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Platform idea:

The Liberal Party of Atlasia stands for Liberalism in all it's forms. We support the intrinsic value of the individual, and that the governments main duty is to protect and allow it's citizens to pursue a life of joy, happiness, and comfort, without undue stress, and that the government's duty is to both remain minimal and supportive of public welfare.

The Liberal Party supports the rights of women, the LGBT community, and human rights. We oppose the death penalty, support abortion, and back same sex marriage and adoption. We support the right of the individual to live their lives as they see fit.

The Liberal Party wants to build an Atlasia where the people live without the constant fear and worry of destitution. We accept that public welfare and support for the needy is not only required, but desired. We desire a society where welfare is a back-up option available to those who falter, and not a way of life. We support a society that incentivises success, a society that allows a person to be all that they can be, and a society that welcomes all.

The Liberal Party opposes the idea of a 'litmus test' of support. We are an open big-tent party that will not exclude any members based on a small number of ideas on which they may disagree with the party as a whole. We believe that this is necessary for community building not only on the party, but that this attitude of inclusion is a requirement to build an at-large community across all political lines in Atlasia as a a whole.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

We are the only national* party that's not committed to dissolution.

* = Having at least 1 member in each region!

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=143164.msg3173646#msg3173646

[Napoleon]

February elections are coming up soon, btw.

[Sbane]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

[Napoleon]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

I agree with these, are there any specific economic issues you think should be in the platform? I suspect that support for free trade will be in the final platform, as well as avoiding overregulation. We should probably support progressive taxation and diversity of taxation, and removing loopholes. I think we should be supportive of effective healthcare and education programs too.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

I agree with these, are there any specific economic issues you think should be in the platform? I suspect that support for free trade will be in the final platform, as well as avoiding overregulation. We should probably support progressive taxation and diversity of taxation, and removing loopholes. I think we should be supportive of effective healthcare and education programs too.

I think the economics portions should be focused on promoting individual achievement, maintaining an effective progressive tax system, a strong social safety net and protections for worker's rights and consumers.

On regulations, I think we should argue that regulations have a role in protecting both employers and employees, however, over-regulation stymies economic vitality and it both cumbersome and an expense to both employers and the bureaucracy.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Will the Liberal Party have regional parties/chairs?  I think the JCP and RPP did something similar.  Not sure how that went, though.

[Oakvale]

Once we have a few concrete platform ideas to choose between I'll open a new thread (the very first Liberal convention!) to vote on platforms, logos, leadership, and possible endorsements for Senate races and the Presidential election without the chaos inherent in a foundation thread.

I think the convention city should be in the Northeast to reflect the bulk of our membership, but. I'm open to suggestion.

[Sbane]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

I agree with these, are there any specific economic issues you think should be in the platform? I suspect that support for free trade will be in the final platform, as well as avoiding overregulation. We should probably support progressive taxation and diversity of taxation, and removing loopholes. I think we should be supportive of effective healthcare and education programs too.

Yes, I agree with that. For healthcare I think we should pursue a model where the government provides subsidies to those below a certain income level. I don't have a problem with a public option as long as they assume all the risk and it's not subsidized by the government. I don't agree with the government actually employing the providers of healthcare. I am not completely sure how our system is currently so that may be someplace we can try and separate ourselves from the status quo. Also maybe put in something about spending only when necessary and cutting back on wasteful spending but that might be too vague.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I think the convention city should be in the Northeast to reflect the bulk of our membership, but. I'm open to suggestion.

No objections here!

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

I agree with these, are there any specific economic issues you think should be in the platform? I suspect that support for free trade will be in the final platform, as well as avoiding overregulation. We should probably support progressive taxation and diversity of taxation, and removing loopholes. I think we should be supportive of effective healthcare and education programs too.

Yes, I agree with that. For healthcare I think we should pursue a model where the government provides subsidies to those below a certain income level. I don't have a problem with a public option as long as they assume all the risk and it's not subsidized by the government. I don't agree with the government actually employing the providers of healthcare. I am not completely sure how our system is currently so that may be someplace we can try and separate ourselves from the status quo. Also maybe put in something about spending only when necessary and cutting back on wasteful spending but that might be too vague.

Atlasia currently has a universal health care system.  I would not be in favor of opposing it.

[Mopsus]

In my opinion, having regional chairmen is only necessary if reminding every member to vote becomes too cumbersome a job for one person. I don't think that we're at that point yet, and frankly, I don't see us (or anyone else for that matter) getting to that point anytime soon.

[Napoleon]

Will the Liberal Party have regional parties/chairs?  I think the JCP and RPP did something similar.  Not sure how that went, though.

I don't think we have the numbers, even though we are a 13 member big tent behemoth.

[Sbane]

Have we decided on our economic platform yet? We should most certainly be centrist on economic issues. Also we should be in favor of abortion for the first two trimesters and be anti-death penalty.

I agree with these, are there any specific economic issues you think should be in the platform? I suspect that support for free trade will be in the final platform, as well as avoiding overregulation. We should probably support progressive taxation and diversity of taxation, and removing loopholes. I think we should be supportive of effective healthcare and education programs too.

Yes, I agree with that. For healthcare I think we should pursue a model where the government provides subsidies to those below a certain income level. I don't have a problem with a public option as long as they assume all the risk and it's not subsidized by the government. I don't agree with the government actually employing the providers of healthcare. I am not completely sure how our system is currently so that may be someplace we can try and separate ourselves from the status quo. Also maybe put in something about spending only when necessary and cutting back on wasteful spending but that might be too vague.

Atlasia currently has a universal health care system.  I would not be in favor of opposing it.

Yes, we must make sure everyone has health care so I don't oppose it either. I am just not sure if we have a system similar to the NHS, which I would oppose. I would lean closer to the Bismarck model or the Canadian model which might have one government run insurance company, but private providers.