7,000 "enemies of the state" "disappeared" under new Libyan regime.

[tpfkaw]

Freedom and democracy!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/leaked-un-report-reveals-torture-lynchings-and-abuse-in-postgaddafi-libya-6266636.html

Obama really wanted a new birth of freedom in the Middle East, it wasn't just an attempt to steal the contracts on new Chinese-built oil facilities for American oil companies!

[Middle-aged Europe]

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The problem is not the new Libyan "regime", it's the lack of authority it has. There wouldn't be a problem if the new government were actually capable of doing sh!t.

Worst case is another Somalia, and I doubt that this is in the interest of "American oil companies" as the OP claimed. You need a certain amount of stability in order to drill for oil.

[Хahar 🤔]

I don't see what the problem would be. They're in private jails; it's the free market at work!

[dead0man]

don't you have a thread somewhere for posts like that?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

You are right, lets go back to the old ways where 70,000 people will vanish.

[Insula Dei]

You are right, lets go back to the old ways where 70,000 people will vanish.

Oh no, Qadaffi wouldn't have been all secretive about it if Benghazi would have fallen in his paws, I imagine, more likely he'd have wanted people to know you don't rise up against clonel Muammar Qaddafi.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I don't see what the problem would be. They're in private jails; it's the free market at work!

Precisely. No central government intervention: wormyguy's paradise.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Libya is now less of a North Korea and more of a Somalia.

[Free Palestine]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

[opebo]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

Still, it seems highly unlikely that 'Libyans as a whole' are anything to be optimistic about.

[GMantis]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

Stability under Muammar al-Qaddafi is arguably a lot worse than instability, considering that instability could conceivably at some point yield a better result.

[GMantis]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

Stability under Muammar al-Qaddafi is arguably a lot worse than instability, considering that instability could conceivably at some point yield a better result.

They would have to achieve a result as good as the one under Qadhafy.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

Stability under Muammar al-Qaddafi is arguably a lot worse than instability, considering that instability could conceivably at some point yield a better result.

They would have to achieve a result as good as the one under Qadhafy.

...I believe I just said that, yes.

Libya is better without Qaddafi already, even without actually being 'good'.

[Gustaf]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

How does that make sense given that Gaddafi led to this?

[GMantis]

Libyan militias are also still fighting eachother and sh**t.

This is hardly a sign of anything bad on the part of the NTC or Libyans as a whole.

It does seem to confirm the prediction that Libya would become more unstable without Gaddafi.

How does that make sense given that Gaddafi led to this?

How did Gadhafi lead to this? It was his opponents who overthrew and installed the current anarchy.

[dead0man]

uhhhh.....

[CARLHAYDEN]

Freedom and democracy!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/leaked-un-report-reveals-torture-lynchings-and-abuse-in-postgaddafi-libya-6266636.html

Obama really wanted a new birth of freedom in the Middle East, it wasn't just an attempt to steal the contracts on new Chinese-built oil facilities for American oil companies!

Give them time, they will increase the number!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

There are huge tensions between various field commanders (many of whom can be now compared to archetypal Black Africa's warlords, in regards of power exercised in respective territories and within respective tribes) and the Transitional Council. Simply: there's no central authority to prevent these awful things.

Of course had Gaddafi won, there would be slaughter as well, but centralized one, which doesn't make any difference.