Which forum Republican....

[Phony Moderate]

....would have the best chance of defeating Obama in 2012?

[Yelnoc]

Torie.

[Mechaman]

King

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

jmfcst, of course

[All Along The Watchtower]

Newt Gingrich/Paul Ryan Wonkish1

[Username MechaRFK]

Torie.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Muon.

[Lambsbread]

Naso.

[tmthforu94]

Torie, but he would never win the primary.

Of those who could, MasterJedi.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Tmthforu94, or Naso.

[Bacon King]

Joe Republican.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Torie, but he would never win the primary.

Of those who could, MasterJedi.

I'd trounce MasterJedi in the primary

[California8429]

MasterJedi

[Smash255]

Moose, of course he has even less of a chance than Torie of winning a Primary

[Frodo]

North Carolina Yankee or AHDuke

[Psychic Octopus]

Torie would landslide Obama. But he could never be nominated.

[RI]

Even if Torie somehow were the nominee, I think he'll lose enough socons (who'd probably stay home) to hand the election to Obama.

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look you primitive screw heads, I am easily the closest thing to the ideal ideological GOP primary candidate.  

And as far as the general election goes:

1) On economic issues:  I have enough moderate economic policies not to scare off independents, and I have more than enough economic imagination to trounce Obama on his economic record and lack of economic imagination.  And I am willing to spend and tax, not in an attempt to artificially redistribute wealth, but in an attempt to transform the American economy in very patriotic (e.g. my energy plan) and concrete (set milestones and metrics for measuring success) ways that would unite the majority of the nation and give it a sense of economic purpose that would greatly benefit our foreign policy goals.

2) On foreign policy:  My long standing position is based upon the principles of the freedom and tolerance of religion, and therefore I can completely be consistent in critiquing a) Bush43’s naïve foreign policy for attempting to occupy and impose democracy in Muslim countries which do not believe in religious tolerance, and b) Obama’s naïve policy of supporting the Arab Spring Islamist uprisings which do not believe in religious tolerance as the foundation of democracy.  Thus, I could critique both Bush and Obama based on the principles of the US Declaration of Independence and on the Preamble and First Amendment to the US Constitution and argue from an 100% American viewpoint that these freedoms are universally essential to any society, and that the US should NEVER have a foreign policy which supports “democratic” movements opposed to these universal principles.  Thus my foreign policy is explainable to any American and upholds the foundational universal principles that have a) made this country great b) made the US a safe-haven from religious persecution, whether that persecution is in the form of Christian theocracies or in the form of Muslim Sharia Law.  And my view of tolerance and freedom of religion as the foundation stone for a civilized and peaceful society will reassure independents who may be disturbed that I am a genuine believer in the bible.

3) On social issues:  aside from opposing abortion except in the case of rape or incest (less than 1% of all abortions), I am status quo on social issues.  I do NOT support anti-sodomy laws and believe the government should NOT be telling adults what they can and can not do in the bedroom, whether they be homosexual or heterosexual.  I believe gays should, and do, have the right to marry (no one is going around arresting homosexuals for declaring themselves married), but recognition of those marriages by the state (which is the people) is NOT a right under our constitution – you do NOT have the right to have your actions condoned by the state….my social positions would NOT scare off independents.

4) My personal beliefs:  I am not a young-earther and I am a huge proponent of science.  I know enough about the bloody history of heretical Christianity to be able to use that history to promote separation of church and state and reassure independents.

[Insula Dei]

Torie would be so easy to portray as the Kochs' candidate in a general election campaign.

[Gustaf]

look you primitive screw heads, I am easily the closet thing to the ideal ideological GOP primary candidate.  

And as far as the general election goes:

1) On economic issues:  I have enough moderate economic policies not to scare off independents, and I have more than enough economic imagination to trounce Obama on his economic record and lack of economic imagination.  And I am willing to spend and tax, not in an attempt to artificially redistribute wealth, but in an attempt to transform the American economy in very patriotic (e.g. my energy plan) and concrete (set milestones and metrics for measuring success) ways that would unite the majority of the nation and give it a sense of economic purpose that would greatly benefit our foreign policy goals.

2) On foreign policy:  My long standing position is based upon the principles of the freedom and tolerance of religion, and therefore I can be completely be consistent in critiquing a) Bush43’s naïve foreign policy for attempting to occupy and impose democracy in Muslim countries which do not believe in religious tolerance, and b) Obama’s naïve policy of supporting the Arab Spring Islamist uprisings which do not believe in religious tolerance as the foundation of democracy.  Thus, I could critique both Bush and Obama based on the principles of the Preamble to the US Declaration of Independence and the First Amendment to the US Constitution and argue from an 100% American viewpoint that these freedoms are universally essential to any society, and that the US should NEVER have a foreign policy which supports “democratic” movements opposed to these universal principles.  Thus my foreign policy is explainable to any American and upholds the foundational universal principles that have a) made this country great b) made the US a safe-haven from religious persecution, whether that persecution is in the form of Christian theocracies or in the form of Muslim Sharia Law.  And my view of tolerance and freedom of religion as the foundation stone for a civilized and peaceful society will reassure independents who may be disturbed that I am a genuine believer in the bible.

3) On social issues:  aside from opposing abortion except in the case of rape or incest (less than 1% of all abortions), I am status quo on social issues.  I do NOT support anti-sodomy laws and believe the government should NOT be telling adults what they can and can not do in the bedroom, whether they be homosexual or heterosexual.  I believe gays should, and do, have the right to marry (no one is going around arresting homosexuals for declaring themselves married), but recognition of those marriages by the state (which is the people) is NOT a right under our constitution – you do NOT have the right to have your actions condoned by the state….my social positions would NOT scare off independents.

4) My personal beliefs:  I am not a young-earther and I am a huge proponent of science.  I know enough about the bloody history of heretical Christianity to be able to use that history to promote separation of church and state and reassure independents.

With that platform you wouldn't make it out of the primary. The Tea Party would label you a RINO.

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With that platform you wouldn't make it out of the primary. The Tea Party would label you a RINO.

The Tea Party is not opposed to Red-White-And-Blue-Apollo-style programs to convert over to natural gas (producted in America) and away from oil (produced in Muslim countries).  Nor is the majority of the Tea Party opposed to a millionaires tax (if the cut to tax ratio is 5:1 to 10:1) to pay for such Apollo-style programs.  And the Tea Party isn't opposed to preaching the foundational doctrines of the US to the masses of the Arab Spring.

[opebo]

jmfcst, you're certainly more electable than an aging never-married/never-reproduced bachelor obsessed with fitness.

But I doubt any of you all are electable.

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jmfcst, you're certainly more electable than an aging never-married/never-reproduced bachelor obsessed with fitness.

you lost me...are you referring to Torie?

[Torie]

What is this Koch connection?  Opebo, I have put the aging process on hold for the moment. Deal with it.

If I ever did have a chance of being nominated, this would be the year. You just don't hear much about the issues where my views represent but a minority of the GOP ranks. I'd love to debate Newt, Somebody needs to take him down.

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If I ever did have a chance of being nominated, this would be the year.

are you a social conservative?  if not, you stand no chance at the nomination, esp this year.