Should opebo have been Prime Minister of Greece the last few years?

[opebo]

It's like a textbook case of a useful idiot. It's really that whole aspect of Opebo (or rather his little cult) that I find interesting. The psychology of people who want to be fooled into following a leader (be it a political dictator, cult leader, rock star, etc) fascinates me, largely because it is a mindset so far removed from my own.

You're the one simplemindedly following an ideology, Gustaf as well as being a slave to consistency.  An omnipotent potentate of good humor and tact outweighs the most 'reasonable' of political philosophies.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He'd have probably done a better job than the Greeks have done.....

[Gustaf]

It's like a textbook case of a useful idiot. It's really that whole aspect of Opebo (or rather his little cult) that I find interesting. The psychology of people who want to be fooled into following a leader (be it a political dictator, cult leader, rock star, etc) fascinates me, largely because it is a mindset so far removed from my own.

You're the one simplemindedly following an ideology, Gustaf as well as being a slave to consistency.  An omnipotent potentate of good humor and tact outweighs the most 'reasonable' of political philosophies.

Oh, I'm aware of this little game of yours. I'm afraid that your humour appeals more to the adolescent mind than to mine though. If you were actually amusing I'd be a lot more willing to forgive the rest.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

BRTD is certainly mistaking old-school egoistic hedonism straight from ancien regime Versailles with "progressivism".

Well, I like opebo, but he's not progressive hero.

[opebo]

Oh, I'm aware of this little game of yours. I'm afraid that your humour appeals more to the adolescent mind than to mine though. If you were actually amusing I'd be a lot more willing to forgive the rest.

I was using the term 'humor' more in the sense of mood and character (as in 'he was in a good humor all week after his rousing session with Svetlana') rather than in the sense of 'funny'.

...old-school egoistic hedonism straight from ancien regime Versailles.

That's one of the nicest things anyone's every said about me, kalwedjt.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Hitler was an extreme nationalist and opposed the US because it opposed his nationalist goals. opebo is an American, so it's not quite the same.

What views of opebo's are right wing? He doesn't support free market economics and isn't socially conservative.

Eh...he supports monarchy and totalitarian dictatorship? He supports inherited priveleges? He has stated that his favourite society model is the monarchies in Europe in the late nineteenth century.

You can't seriously be this dense. The reason he doesn't like the free market is because it allows upstarts to make money instead of leaving the upper class preserved. Thus, it creates social mobility which is what he dislikes. The socialist rhetoric he sometimes employs is just a joke on people like you.

And his archaic sexism isn't exactly socially liberal...you seem to think that a Turkish sultan with a harem is socially progressive because he doesn't live in monogamy, but that is a rather flawed analysis, to say the least.

(Hitler was arguably racist rather than nationalist. And I don't see where Opebo hates nationalism. He certainly hates certain nations and loves others, which is what extreme nationalism is about. That's not tolerant, is it? Regardless, it doesn't change the point that your statement does not read like something a sane person would think up. Officepark dislikes him so he must be leftwinged? Do you see how deranged of a statement that is?)

Uh, opebo constantly belittles the US's poor social safety net and talks about how we need a "generous dole" for poors and to raise the minimum wage. He also strongly supports single-payer universal healthcare and not allowing private insurance. His views on economics are the exact opposite of the Tea Party.

Let's take a look at a leading socially conservative activist group in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Values_Coalition

Their positions:

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Now let's see how opebo agrees with these:

1. Clearly not the same
2. LOL no
3. LOL no
4. LOL no
5. Nope, not at all, lol (BTW anyone find the last bit legitimately scary?)
6. Nope
7. LMAO
8. Nope, clearly not opebo

0/8. Yeah opebo is quite the social conservative. In fact I agree with 0.75 of those, making me more socially conservative (Half of the first one [euthanasia] and a quarter of the last one [smoking].)

I think the sweetest irony of this entire obsession is that BRTD claims to be a Christian and Opebo wants Christians to be put to death. And BRTD is a fervent supporter of him.

If you take some hyperbolic and satirical statements made by him literally I suppose. But even if you do:

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It's like a textbook case of a useful idiot. It's really that whole aspect of Opebo (or rather his little cult) that I find interesting. The psychology of people who want to be fooled into following a leader (be it a political dictator, cult leader, rock star, etc) fascinates me, largely because it is a mindset so far removed from my own.

You act like opebo has any level of influence whatsoever in the world and that he's actually an important figure, not just a guy hanging out with hookers in Thailand.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Christ, BRTD, not being a close-minded bigot on sexuality/gambling/relligion etc. etc. doesn't automatically makes you a social progressive.

The picture is little wider, you know...

[Gustaf]

Oh, I'm aware of this little game of yours. I'm afraid that your humour appeals more to the adolescent mind than to mine though. If you were actually amusing I'd be a lot more willing to forgive the rest.

I was using the term 'humor' more in the sense of mood and character (as in 'he was in a good humor all week after his rousing session with Svetlana') rather than in the sense of 'funny'.

...old-school egoistic hedonism straight from ancien regime Versailles.

That's one of the nicest things anyone's every said about me, kalwedjt.

I'm very rarely not in a good mood. I am surrounded by people I like who like me back, occupied with something I enjoy and having enough money to satisfy my material needs. Contrasted with your endless lithanies I suspect I'm a lot happier.

[Gustaf]

Hitler was an extreme nationalist and opposed the US because it opposed his nationalist goals. opebo is an American, so it's not quite the same.

What views of opebo's are right wing? He doesn't support free market economics and isn't socially conservative.

Eh...he supports monarchy and totalitarian dictatorship? He supports inherited priveleges? He has stated that his favourite society model is the monarchies in Europe in the late nineteenth century.

You can't seriously be this dense. The reason he doesn't like the free market is because it allows upstarts to make money instead of leaving the upper class preserved. Thus, it creates social mobility which is what he dislikes. The socialist rhetoric he sometimes employs is just a joke on people like you.

And his archaic sexism isn't exactly socially liberal...you seem to think that a Turkish sultan with a harem is socially progressive because he doesn't live in monogamy, but that is a rather flawed analysis, to say the least.

(Hitler was arguably racist rather than nationalist. And I don't see where Opebo hates nationalism. He certainly hates certain nations and loves others, which is what extreme nationalism is about. That's not tolerant, is it? Regardless, it doesn't change the point that your statement does not read like something a sane person would think up. Officepark dislikes him so he must be leftwinged? Do you see how deranged of a statement that is?)

Uh, opebo constantly belittles the US's poor social safety net and talks about how we need a "generous dole" for poors and to raise the minimum wage. He also strongly supports single-payer universal healthcare and not allowing private insurance. His views on economics are the exact opposite of the Tea Party.

Let's take a look at a leading socially conservative activist group in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Values_Coalition

Their positions:

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Now let's see how opebo agrees with these:

1. Clearly not the same
2. LOL no
3. LOL no
4. LOL no
5. Nope, not at all, lol (BTW anyone find the last bit legitimately scary?)
6. Nope
7. LMAO
8. Nope, clearly not opebo

0/8. Yeah opebo is quite the social conservative. In fact I agree with 0.75 of those, making me more socially conservative (Half of the first one [euthanasia] and a quarter of the last one [smoking].)

I think the sweetest irony of this entire obsession is that BRTD claims to be a Christian and Opebo wants Christians to be put to death. And BRTD is a fervent supporter of him.

If you take some hyperbolic and satirical statements made by him literally I suppose. But even if you do:

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It's like a textbook case of a useful idiot. It's really that whole aspect of Opebo (or rather his little cult) that I find interesting. The psychology of people who want to be fooled into following a leader (be it a political dictator, cult leader, rock star, etc) fascinates me, largely because it is a mindset so far removed from my own.

You act like opebo has any level of influence whatsoever in the world and that he's actually an important figure, not just a guy hanging out with hookers in Thailand.

This is so irrelevant that I don't know what to reply. It's also so bizarre that it creeps me out a bit.

Suffice it to say that the reason Opebo wants all these "socialist" policies is that he wants to prevent poor people from becoming rich, not stifling privelege. He supports a privleged elite, remember?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Opebo is actually more like Valmont from the Dangerous Liaisons: an aristocratic libertine during ancien regime era, interested only in pursing his own pleasure and hating social norms for that reason only.

Just because such a type hates social restrictions because of his own egoism, doesn't make him progressive nor a socialist.

Again, picture is far wider.

And btw, I actually respect opebo because he's absolutely sincere about his positions, BRTD is badly misreading.

[dead0man]

Sincere?  Dude, you're going to need a doctor to get that hook out of your cheek.

[Gustaf]

Sincere?  Dude, you're going to need a doctor to get that hook out of your cheek.

Yeah, I wouldn't really say sincere. He pretends to be a socialist a bit too much at times, which is quite cowardly. Still, I didn't think anyone was this fooled by that act.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Opebo reminds me of Maurice James Kingsley from Blackeyes.

[opebo]

Opebo reminds me of Maurice James Kingsley from Blackeyes.

If only there were some way to find this series.. what's this MJK like?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Opebo reminds me of Maurice James Kingsley from Blackeyes.

If only there were some way to find this series.. what's this MJK like?

Well... in terms of personality and often (!) vocabulary... er... you, actually. As for who he is, the character is a washed up writer with a laughably old-fashioned style who turns (and, crucially, distorts) the recollections of his niece (a model) into a novel which accidentally becomes a major literary sensation because it is (wrongly) thought to be a piece of cutting-edge postmodern ironic brilliance.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

I feel dumber after reading this thread.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

So are Gustaf and Kalwejt going to argue that Eliot Spitzer isn't a progressive or socially liberal?

What I don't get is why Gustaf, a right-winger, is so intent on arguing that opebo, someone he hates, is not of the opposing ideology but his own.

[opebo]

Opebo reminds me of Maurice James Kingsley from Blackeyes.

Well... in terms of personality and often (!) vocabulary... er... you, actually. As for who he is, the character is a washed up writer with a laughably old-fashioned style who turns (and, crucially, distorts) the recollections of his niece (a model) into a novel which accidentally becomes a major literary sensation because it is (wrongly) thought to be a piece of cutting-edge postmodern ironic brilliance.

Sounds fascinating - wish I could view it.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

So are Gustaf and Kalwejt going to argue that Eliot Spitzer isn't a progressive or socially liberal?

...

...

...

Eh...

I didn't know Eliot Spitzer was a vocal supporter of Gaddafi's slaughter of thousands of his own people, or a proponent of inherited privileges.

In other words, how the f**k was that comparison even remotely relevant?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

OK, I understand now!

Screwing prostitutes is the only issue seperating liberals from conservatives. The whole rest is irrevelant.

[Gustaf]

So are Gustaf and Kalwejt going to argue that Eliot Spitzer isn't a progressive or socially liberal?

What I don't get is why Gustaf, a right-winger, is so intent on arguing that opebo, someone he hates, is not of the opposing ideology but his own.

lol

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

A little question to BRTD I'd like to have an answer:

How are you going to comment on opebo's admiration of Gaddafi and his regime?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

A little question to BRTD I'd like to have an answer:

How are you going to comment on opebo's admiration of Gaddafi and his regime?

I disagree with it.

What I don't understand is why a fellow Gaddafi supporter as yourself is attacking him over it.

[© tweed]

(as in 'he was in a good humor all week after his rousing session with Svetlana')

this just cracked me the  up.  it's straight out of a Tolstoy novel.  I was having a lousy day too, thank you.

[Boris]

opebo, what do you think of the East German automobiles in your signature? According to Jeremy Clarkson and co., every car made in the former Soviet bloc is rubbish.