Opinion of "Occupy Wall Street" opponents

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I've never heard a single one of them talk about the 1%, they just talk about the protesters "getting jobs" which clearly to me says they are not paying attention to what the hell these people are protesting about.

The protest is not about jobs one bit. It's about the super rich getting super richer while everyone else is stuck in jobs making $200,000 or (significantly) less.

[opebo]

I've never heard a single one of them talk about the 1%, they just talk about the protesters "getting jobs" which clearly to me says they are not paying attention to what the hell these people are protesting about.

The protest is not about jobs one bit. It's about the super rich getting super richer while everyone else is stuck in jobs making $200,000 or (significantly) less.

What now?  Most people are stuck in jobs making $20,000, not $200,000, Teddy.

[fezzyfestoon]

I really don't understand a genuine opposition to this movement. The only things I can see driving the opposition are misplaced anger and manipulative media coverage. The people posting their accomplishments as the "53%" are proud of what they've done and should be. The reason they're proud is because it's not easy. I'm not understanding how they don't make that connection and support others who haven't been able to do something about the same issues they faced. I see that as anger that they're fighting against the obstacles instead of accepting them and maneuvering through unacceptable prevention of upward mobility. They're perhaps bitter that people aren't accepting that their woes are their own fault. And they're not their fault in far too many cases, that's the issue. They don't think we should tear down the things they had to work so hard to get around. Those obstacles shouldn't be there in the first place and aren't natural things to be faced with. They're obstacles being imposed by a weak government that bends over backwards to make things easier for a select few businesses that extort earnings. The anger should be directed towards the people who have been putting up the obstacles, not the people trying to tear them down. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

The media coverage on the other hand I understand perfectly and am disgusted by the zombie-like acceptance of anything we're fed. The coverage of this movement at its most positive is condescending and dismissive. We are constantly being told not to accept protests because they're automatically immature, pointless, and unAmerican. Of course it is when the companies broadcasting coverage are part of the problem being protested. It's an amazing display of manipulation that really, really bothers me. It's almost automatic to follow exactly what the coverage says about an event even when the bias is so obvious. It's another symptom of what I think is an increasingly lazy (intellectually, physically, emotionally) American populace.

Prove me wrong. Please, prove me wrong. I'd rather have to deal with people opposing the politics of a movement (even when it's so universal), than people essentially opposing themselves for no logical reason in particular.

[Insula Dei]

Nasty people and fools, basically.

[Lief 🗽]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I've never heard a single one of them talk about the 1%, they just talk about the protesters "getting jobs" which clearly to me says they are not paying attention to what the hell these people are protesting about.

The protest is not about jobs one bit. It's about the super rich getting super richer while everyone else is stuck in jobs making $200,000 or (significantly) less.

It's about a lot of things. or nothing. Aside from dividing people based on arbitrary percentiles, I really can't tell.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

Thank you. That's a wonderful illustration of the attitude that sensible people oppose in this.

[Lief 🗽]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

Thank you. That's a wonderful illustration of the attitude that sensible people oppose in this.

Oh, don't worry. It's much more likely that it'll be your type doing the shooting.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

Thank you. That's a wonderful illustration of the attitude that sensible people oppose in this.

Oh, don't worry. It's much more likely that it'll be your type doing the shooting.

my, uh, "type"? granola munching Huntsman supporters?

[Lief 🗽]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

Thank you. That's a wonderful illustration of the attitude that sensible people oppose in this.

Oh, don't worry. It's much more likely that it'll be your type doing the shooting.

my, uh, "type"? granola munching Huntsman supporters?

What you munch in the privacy of your own home is none of my concern.

[NVGonzalez]

Very HP.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I really don't understand a genuine opposition to this movement. The only things I can see driving the opposition are misplaced anger and manipulative media coverage. The people posting their accomplishments as the "53%" are proud of what they've done and should be. The reason they're proud is because it's not easy. I'm not understanding how they don't make that connection and support others who haven't been able to do something about the same issues they faced. I see that as anger that they're fighting against the obstacles instead of accepting them and maneuvering through unacceptable prevention of upward mobility. They're perhaps bitter that people aren't accepting that their woes are their own fault. And they're not their fault in far too many cases, that's the issue. They don't think we should tear down the things they had to work so hard to get around. Those obstacles shouldn't be there in the first place and aren't natural things to be faced with. They're obstacles being imposed by a weak government that bends over backwards to make things easier for a select few businesses that extort earnings. The anger should be directed towards the people who have been putting up the obstacles, not the people trying to tear them down. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

The media coverage on the other hand I understand perfectly and am disgusted by the zombie-like acceptance of anything we're fed. The coverage of this movement at its most positive is condescending and dismissive. We are constantly being told not to accept protests because they're automatically immature, pointless, and unAmerican. Of course it is when the companies broadcasting coverage are part of the problem being protested. It's an amazing display of manipulation that really, really bothers me. It's almost automatic to follow exactly what the coverage says about an event even when the bias is so obvious. It's another symptom of what I think is an increasingly lazy (intellectually, physically, emotionally) American populace.

Prove me wrong. Please, prove me wrong. I'd rather have to deal with people opposing the politics of a movement (even when it's so universal), than people essentially opposing themselves for no logical reason in particular.

I'm liking you more and more lately.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Most of them are quislings and will hopefully be the first up against the wall when the system collapses.

Thank you. That's a wonderful illustration of the attitude that sensible people oppose in this.

Oh, don't worry. It's much more likely that it'll be your type doing the shooting.

my, uh, "type"? granola munching Huntsman supporters?

What you munch in the privacy of your own home is none of my concern.

really? even if I keep kosher? That would help you elaborate your paranoia a bit.

[Free Palestine]

It seems like a lot of them are those stupid arrogant types who assure themselves the OWS protesters will "grow up" and "realize" that they're right.

[The Mikado]

Which opponents?

[Boris]

(kinda stupid, but I still lol'd)

[fezzyfestoon]

There's a lot wrong with that paper. Not the least of which is the American obsession with being "better" by ruining our own lives. How great of a life is it when you work 5AM to 10PM and can't even get up to pee? And hurling an insult like "we're going to landscape our own back yards" is probably the most telling. Poor us, you're going to do something tangible for yourself instead of playing with people's money until it builds artificial wealth that comes crashing down after people realize it's not real. I for one have been complaining about the economy since before it was really bad, not that it should matter anyway. I don't see how it's the general public's responsibility to police the experts' conduct within their own field. What that person doesn't realize is that they're no better off than the people he/she is looking SO far down upon. They're working too hard for too little just to spend it on things they don't need. Plus, "vicious" is a positive personality trait now? We are so effed...

[Lief 🗽]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

[© tweed]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

I am a totalitarian.  are you?

[Lief 🗽]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

I am a totalitarian.  are you?

Nah, I just think enemies of the toiling classes should be put in front of firing squads as soon as can be arranged.

[Gustaf]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

I am a totalitarian.  are you?

Nah, I just think enemies of the toiling classes should be put in front of firing squads as soon as can be arranged.

Once the revolutionaries find this quote, displaying a shocking disloyalty to the new leadership, you will be up against the wall too.

[Lief 🗽]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

I am a totalitarian.  are you?

Nah, I just think enemies of the toiling classes should be put in front of firing squads as soon as can be arranged.

Once the revolutionaries find this quote, displaying a shocking disloyalty to the new leadership, you will be up against the wall too.

Oh probably, probably. I think there's a good chance I'll probably be up against the wall at some point if the revolution ever does come. But it'll hopefully be for the greater good.

[Brandon H]

Like the Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street is a collection of different views. The main view was opposing Wall Street greed, but since then socialist, communists, and national socialist (not kidding about that one) have supported it. I saw someone with a sign saying "Housing is a human right" at one of the rallies. There was one rally that vandalized a church.

There are some OWS opponents who support the "1%". (Herman Cain for one who said it's their own fault for not having jobs.) But some OWS opponents are not so much as supportive of the 1% are they are against those pushing for an end to capitalism or against those vandalizing property.

There is a small part of OWS that conservatives / libertarians could support. But they are probably trying to interject their views into the movement the same way the socialists and communists are. These view including getting back to the constitution (because not following the constitution is what allowed Wall Street to gain the power it has). There are also some Audit the Fed people involved in OWS.

Overall, I think still favor the Venn diagram showing the crossover between the Tea Party and OWS (Tea Party - government has too much power; OWS - corporations have too much power; Both - Government grants power and is influenced by corporations.) If both sides would work together to end corporate welfare and stop any further government bail outs I think some good could come from things.

So to the original question, it depends on what part of OWS they oppose.

[Insula Dei]

People like that letter writer are even worse than the 1%. They need to be put up against the walls ASAP

I am a totalitarian.  are you?

Nah, I just think enemies of the toiling classes should be put in front of firing squads as soon as can be arranged.

Once the revolutionaries find this quote, displaying a shocking disloyalty to the new leadership, you will be up against the wall too.

How's the Workers' Directorate an enemy of the toiling classes, Gustaf? I think we can all agree you're behaving very suspectly. How does being shot at dawn sound like to you?

[Leftbehind]

Mostly gullible and smug little sheep who think parroting the press's self-serving derision makes them superior, rather than look even bigger idiots than the people out there (who may include idiots but are people actually fighting for a possibility of betterment for themselves, rather than against it).