Opinion of Qaddafi's Death

[Free Palestine]

I must say, I find it hard for me to celebrate the death of anyone.  And I think it should be hard for anyone who believes the new Libya should have a strong basis in human rights, as well.

He was a murderous wad of course.  But he was still a sapient being.

[RI]

I was not happy that he was killed like he was, but I can at least understand the motivation for it.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I dont celebrate deaths, but I wont mourn his, and I certainly dont blame the Libyans for it.

[Lambsbread]

I am neither celebrating nor mourning his death. I'm glad he's out of power though.

[RogueBeaver]

Freedom death, sic semper tyrannus.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Horrible death on principle, but freedom death purely relative to most other deaths.

[dead0man]

I can certainly understand the feeling that no death is a Freedom Death, but I don't see how anybody can see this as a Horrible Death.  (unless you're a horrible person to begin with)

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I can certainly understand the feeling that no death is a Freedom Death, but I don't see how anybody can see this as a Horrible Death.  (unless you're a horrible person to begin with)

Horrible death is the only option because, as you said, no death is a Freedom death and we operate with a dichotomy in these polls, but this death is most certainly less Horrible than other deaths.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

His death will certainly bring freedom, so Freedom Death.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

of course it was horrible, no one should be treated like that.  I am not saying a tyrant should never be killed, but this is gratuitous. His power was already gone.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

of course it was horrible, no one should be treated like that.  I am not saying a tyrant should never be killed, but this is gratuitous. His power was already gone.

I actually agree with you.

They killed him to make life easier for the NTC.

He was an utter scumbag, no question, but he should have been put on trial.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Let's put it clearly, and not be a bigoted hack from one side or another.

- First of all, Libya is a better place with him dead, I think this is undeniable unless your name is Opebo.
- Also, I don't feel sorry in any way for someone who has, jailed, murdered and tortured his own people for decades.
- And I can't in any way blame the people who did this. It is a pretty understandable reaction from people who have suffered a lot from his barbarity (see above).
- However, there is no possible way in which a humanist can approve the lynching of someone, whoever he is. I'm not talking about Gaddafi, or about the Libyan rebels, but about the act in se. You just can't be "fine" with it, because if you think lynching is bad, it means it's universally bad, and equally bad whoever the victim is. Whether it is a black person murdered because he dared to vote or a murderous tyrant. I believe in human rights, and among those rights, there is the right to a fair trial. Human rights are valid for epic freedom fighters in the exact same way they're valid from disgusting pieces of human trash. Otherwise, they don't mean anything.

[Mechaman]

Let's put it clearly, and not be a bigoted hack from one side or another.

- First of all, Libya is a better place with him dead, I think this is undeniable unless your name is Opebo.
- Also, I don't feel sorry in any way for someone who has, jailed, murdered and tortured his own people for decades.
- And I can't in any way blame the people who did this. It is a pretty understandable reaction from people who have suffered a lot from his barbarity (see above).
- However, there is no possible way in which a humanist can approve the lynching of someone, whoever he is. I'm not talking about Gaddafi, or about the Libyan rebels, but about the act in se. You just can't be "fine" with it, because if you think lynching is bad, it means it's universally bad, and equally bad whoever the victim is. Whether it is a black person murdered because he dared to vote or a murderous tyrant. I believe in human rights, and among those rights, there is the right to a fair trial. Human rights are valid for epic freedom fighters in the exact same way they're valid from disgusting pieces of human trash. Otherwise, they don't mean anything.

I agree.
[/Moderate Heroes, Inc.]

[GMantis]

It was a horrible death, but it doesn't change the fact that he deserved it. And that in turn doesn't change the fact that his overthrow will not necessarily improve Libya.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

His death will certainly bring freedom

Lol.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Horrible death, just like every death. However, I cannot and I will not judge a Libyan or Libyans who killed Gaddafi. Unlike them, I didn't have to live under his regime so I can't possibly judge their emotions. If I were Libyan, I'd probably gladly put a bullet in his head myself.

But if you think Gaddafi's death will magically change everything (bah, I waved my magic stick, now Libya is free, Democratic, tolerant, peaceful and prosperous county) then, geez, you're total ignorant.

[minionofmidas]

The one he chose. He had many opportunities to surrender himself or flee the country. He chose to fight to the bitter end. FD.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

The one he chose. He had many opportunities to surrender himself or flee the country. He chose to fight to the bitter end. FD.

That's true. Gaddafi had money and he could buy a nice exile somewhere. But he was a person that did not know when to end.

[© tweed]

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

[Lief 🗽]

I don't think there's any contradiction in being a leftist and celebrating the lynching of brutal dictators. Leftists have been lynching tyrants for centuries.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

It's sickening to see people joining mob mentality which apparently became a cool thing nowdays.

Yes, guys, keep waving with plastic guns from your comfortable western homes.

I definitively understand sentiments of the Libyan people, who lived under that monster for over four decades. But you guys are just internet chickenhawks. Especially people like Lief, who praised secular dictators for number of occasions before, but now is trying to be "cool"as well. Hypocrite.

[opebo]

Quaddafi and the people who beat him to death are the same - it is one and the same culture.  He beat them, they beat him.  Its the old cycle of life.  Why judge them? 

But yes, the most interesting fact is that he stayed and fought - it shows none of us can really.. not fully.. understand him. 

[Lief 🗽]

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

It's sickening to see people joining mob mentality which apparently became a cool thing nowdays.

Yes, guys, keep waving with plastic guns from your comfortable western homes.

I definitively understand sentiments of the Libyan people, who lived under that monster for over four decades. But you guys are just internet chickenhawks. Especially people like Lief, who praised secular dictators for number of occasions before, but now is trying to be "cool"as well. Hypocrite.

Which secular dictators have I praised?

[Insula Dei]

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

What would you have done with Qaddafi?

[© tweed]

disappointing to see the Forum's limited non-liberal left quietly celebrate a lynching.

What would you have done with Qaddafi?

me, an upper-middle class white college kid from Long Island?