Post Modernization Act (rejected)

[bgwah]

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Sponsor: Napoleon

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Strongly oppose.

[bgwah]

The title makes me think of architecture.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The Postal Service is having trouble, they don't need this downsizing for heaven's sake. Remove delivery on Saturdays and allow the Postal Service to downsize the amount of locations and adjust postage rates. They're not to the point of destruction that they need you to halve their delivery days. Delivery days aren't even the big issue causing their financial woes.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I disagree with this Bill - we should be trying to make the Postal Service work better and more efficiently - cutting workers and disadvantaging people with only access to 'snail mail' is not the right way to do it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

There a lot of other things we can do besides cutting delivery to three days a week. Many businesses still rely on traditional mail to conduct their day to day operations. We can cut out Saturday delivery and invest in more efficient practices.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

We can cut out Saturday delivery and invest in more efficient practices.

Haven't we already axed Saturday delivery?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

We can cut out Saturday delivery and invest in more efficient practices.

Haven't we already axed Saturday delivery?

Have we? If so, we can still invest in more efficient operations that will make the service better off in the long term. Cutting back to three day a week delivers will render the postal service irrelevant, and they will then see a tremendous revenue problem as businesses abandon them altogether for other companies. When that happens, we may as well shut the whole thing down.

[bgwah]

What bill axed Saturday service? I don't remember that.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I don't either, and I can't find it if we did.

Unfortunately, I don't see how we can really reform this postal service without cutting some jobs and closing some branches, but I think it is important we keep delivery 5 days a week if we want to keep the postal service relevant at all. If all it was used for was mailing mommy a birthday card, that's one thing, but it isn't.

[bgwah]

Well if we haven't already axed Saturday, I suppose doing so may be an acceptable compromise, maybe?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Well if we haven't already axed Saturday, I suppose doing so may be an acceptable compromise, maybe?

Yeah that's fine. Nothing important comes on Saturdays anyway. But cutting Saturdays really won't shore up the financial problem. It will be a start though. We either need to table this bill and write another one that actually provides some real solutions or amend this to something total different.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tabling the current bill and starting over seems like a complete waste of time. Surely we can amend this to a form suitable to the situation at hand.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Tabling the current bill and starting over seems like a complete waste of time. Surely we can amend this to a form suitable to the situation at hand.

Though I'm also mildly irritated by this trend of introducing half-assed bills that are either not detailed or comprehensive at all, or only address a small part of a problem. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like new bills these days are tiny.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Well if we are to amend this, there are many things we can add. Cutting out saturdays is one, but we also need to research branch closings, reducing administrative costs, reigning in out of control wages (Postal workers wages have risen considerably over other fed positions), and shoring up the pensions which are the main reason the Postal service is in such a mess (I believe wages make up 80% of the post offices' expenses).

The current bill is pretty much half-assed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The current bill is pretty much half-assed.

Beating the dead horse on the current bill will make it come to life?

[bgwah]

I am bringing this to a final vote. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.


Nay

[Napoleon]

Aye

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay

[Marokai Backbeat]

Moving stupid desperately-needing-amended legislation quickly through the legislature does not, a good Senate, make.

[bgwah]

Moving stupid desperately-needing-amended legislation quickly through the legislature does not, a good Senate, make.

I would hardly call allowing almost a week for an amendment to be proposed moving quickly.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think we need to simply reintroduce a bill that actually fixes this problem. Marokai, shall we cosponsor legislation?

[Napoleon]

The only way to fix the problem is abolition and I didn't expect that to pass.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

You're right. I do not think there is a way to really bring it back to profitability (if it ever has been) in the short run, but there are reforms and other things we could do to stop it from bleeding money.