Opinion of "Occupy Wall Street"

[Keystone Phil]

This thread has become Keystone Phil's one-man, anecdote-fueled crusade against OWS in a quest for exacting revenge on the Tea Party-hating "masses."

Good show!

Yeah, he pretty obviously knows he's being disingenuous and doesn't care at all for seriously discussing the actual issues behind the OWS protests in the first place. I wish everyone would just stop responding and let him work out his contempt.

Marokai, you're act is so precious. "I wish everyone would just stop responding..." as you go out of your way to respond to many of my posts. You're an obsessed person.

And don't lecture anyone on being disingenuous. This is what you get for labeling the Tea Party and like minded groups in a disingenuous way. What goes around, comes around.

My only mistake here was hoping that you'd cool it and actually discuss the differences between the Tea Party folks and the OWS folks, as well as the actual issues behind the protests. Apparently, whether or not there are legitimate or valid reasons to protests is entirely irrelevant to you.

Also, "this is what I get"? I don't sit here making fun of the tea party all day. I dislike the Tea Party for entirely different and much more serious reasons. For some reason you're completely blind to that.

Ok and I don't sit here and trash the Scumbaggers all day. I am frequently in the area in which they are protesting and have never once visited their base. I dislike what they stand for much more serious reasons and their uncivil disobedience and general classlessness in just an example. For some reason, you're completely blind to that.

[Keystone Phil]

I'll also point out that despite this place being overrun with left leaning and Liber-tard posters, it's refreshing to see 47% oppose the Invaders and their Ransom Note.

Goooo team!!

What stocks do you own, Fezzy? Have they tumbled so badly that you hate those evil capitalists, too (don't worry. We don't expect you to return the Benz or refuse to enter your parents' mansion when you visit home)?

[fezzyfestoon]

I'll also point out that despite this place being overrun with left leaning and Liber-tard posters, it's refreshing to see 47% oppose the Invaders and their Ransom Note.

Goooo team!!

What stocks do you own, Fezzy? Have they tumbled so badly that you hate those evil capitalists, too (don't worry. We don't expect you to return the Benz or refuse to enter your parents' mansion when you visit home)?

It's about time!

I for one don't hate people for how much money they have. Then again, I also don't hate people for supporting differing causes. I must not have enough rage.

[Keystone Phil]

I for one don't hate people for how much money they have. Then again, I also don't hate people for supporting differing causes.

Great! Neither do I. I'm so glad you're on our team, fighting the Scumbaggers!

[opebo]

I am frequently in the area in which they are protesting

Really?  Why do you go to that area?  Do you have a job?

[Keystone Phil]

I am frequently in the area in which they are protesting

Really?  Why do you go to that area?  Do you have a job?

I'm in that area for social and work reasons quite often and yes, I have a job.

[fezzyfestoon]

I for one don't hate people for how much money they have. Then again, I also don't hate people for supporting differing causes.

Great! Neither do I. I'm so glad you're on our team, fighting the Scumbaggers!

It's not really my thing to oppose other Americans' legitimate political beliefs. They're not policy-makers, so it doesn't really matter if I support them politically. I don't vote for movements in elections, I vote for candidates. My political judgments are saved for politicians. On a personal level, I feel for communities that don't know what else to do but protest. Especially against something affecting all Americans. The only team I'm on is in support of America, not a member of its parasitic political dichotomy. I don't root for them, I root for good decisions regardless of the source.

[All Along The Watchtower]

I for one don't hate people for how much money they have. Then again, I also don't hate people for supporting differing causes.

Great! Neither do I. I'm so glad you're on our team, fighting the Scumbaggers!

I'm convinced you're trolling now.

[CatoMinor]

Everyone should here this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QTfNEDgusQ&feature=player_embedded

[Ban my account ffs!]

OWS and the Tea Party have nothing in common.  The Tea Party was a Fox News/Corporate/Right Wing creation from the top down and was given unlimited press coverage from the beginning.

http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/event/article/id/100032131/group/Opinion/

This is a great article about the difference between the grassroots, bottom-up OWS movement and the top-down, corporate led Tea Party.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Everyone should here this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QTfNEDgusQ&feature=player_embedded

The point of OWS is to nip this in the bud... not condemn the symptoms of the problem (the actions the Fed takes and the inaction of politicians).

In the end it all leads back to Wall Street.

The Ron Paul crowd loves to defend corporations and greed while trying to distract from the real issues by trying to blame "the fed" for all the problems.  If we stop the corruption on Wall Street, the fed will be easy to take care of.  But one thing at a time!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Phil can you please explain just why OWS are all pure scum but you have nothing but admiration for a bunch of imbeciles who think dressing up in three-corner hats and throwing teabags around while holding up signs with slogans that amount to basically "OMG OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, OBAMA = SOCIALIST!!!!!" and "WE HAVE GUNS BE SCARED!!!!11!!" is an intelligent and intellectual form of political discourse?

[Ban my account ffs!]

Phil can you please explain just why OWS are all pure scum but you have nothing but admiration for a bunch of imbeciles who think dressing up in three-corner hats and throwing teabags around while holding up signs with slogans that amount to basically "OMG OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, OBAMA = SOCIALIST!!!!!" and "WE HAVE GUNS BE SCARED!!!!11!!" is an intelligent and intellectual form of political discourse?

I can explain it for him.  He is a Republican hack.  It's that simple.

[GMantis]

There can be no clearer sign of the difference between the Tea party and the OWS movement than the treatment of them by the media.

Phil can you please explain just why OWS are all pure scum but you have nothing but admiration for a bunch of imbeciles who think dressing up in three-corner hats and throwing teabags around while holding up signs with slogans that amount to basically "OMG OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, OBAMA = SOCIALIST!!!!!" and "WE HAVE GUNS BE SCARED!!!!11!!" is an intelligent and intellectual form of political discourse?

It's basically the usual right wing view in America that in a class conflict the rich are always right. And that protest are fundamentally un-American (with some exceptions, of course).

[Keystone Phil]

Phil can you please explain just why OWS are all pure scum but you have nothing but admiration for a bunch of imbeciles who think dressing up in three-corner hats and throwing teabags around while holding up signs with slogans that amount to basically "OMG OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, OBAMA = SOCIALIST!!!!!" and "WE HAVE GUNS BE SCARED!!!!11!!" is an intelligent and intellectual form of political discourse?

Except that isn't true at all and you know it. Typical for you, of course.

My point here is that anyone can pick out ridiculous signs and behavior at any of these protests. You criticize me for thinking everyone at these protests are "pure scum" (not true) but see no problem blasting people that wear three-corner hats (who cares?). That's definitely an intelligent form of political discourse!

I can explain it for him.  He is a Republican hack.  It's that simple.

You calling someone a hack is pretty precious. Are you a Dem hack, Snowguy? I'd love to hear your reasoning why you're not when you're done cleaning up after foaming-at-the-mouth as to why Tim Pawlenty wanted to see your family dead or whatever.

It's basically the usual right wing view in America that in a class conflict the rich are always right. And that protest are fundamentally un-American (with some exceptions, of course).

And the two posts above are a great example of your intelligent form of political discourse, BRTD.

[Keystone Phil]

BRTD, why are all Tea Partiers racist? Why are they all pure scum? Why do they all has the less fortunate? Also, explain to me why every Invader has been angelic in their behavior, not ever acting in an unreasonable way at all?

From the first post, you have twisted what I said about both groups, gave a heavily biased take on both organizations and you wonder why I've responded the way I have about the Scumbaggers/Invaders. Thank you for proving my point.

[Insula Dei]

Everyone should here this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QTfNEDgusQ&feature=player_embedded

The point of OWS is to nip this in the bud... not condemn the symptoms of the problem (the actions the Fed takes and the inaction of politicians).

In the end it all leads back to Wall Street.

The Ron Paul crowd loves to defend corporations and greed while trying to distract from the real issues by trying to blame "the fed" for all the problems.  If we stop the corruption on Wall Street, the fed will be easy to take care of.  But one thing at a time!

No, no, you don't have to stop corruption on Wall Street, you have to stop Wall Street.

[GMantis]

Phil can you please explain just why OWS are all pure scum but you have nothing but admiration for a bunch of imbeciles who think dressing up in three-corner hats and throwing teabags around while holding up signs with slogans that amount to basically "OMG OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, OBAMA = SOCIALIST!!!!!" and "WE HAVE GUNS BE SCARED!!!!11!!" is an intelligent and intellectual form of political discourse?

Except that isn't true at all and you know it. Typical for you, of course.

My point here is that anyone can pick out ridiculous signs and behavior at any of these protests. You criticize me for thinking everyone at these protests are "pure scum" (not true) but see no problem blasting people that wear three-corner hats (who cares?). That's definitely an intelligent form of political discourse!

I can explain it for him.  He is a Republican hack.  It's that simple.

You calling someone a hack is pretty precious. Are you a Dem hack, Snowguy? I'd love to hear your reasoning why you're not when you're done cleaning up after foaming-at-the-mouth as to why Tim Pawlenty wanted to see your family dead or whatever.

It's basically the usual right wing view in America that in a class conflict the rich are always right. And that protest are fundamentally un-American (with some exceptions, of course).

And the two posts above are a great example of your intelligent form of political discourse, BRTD.

You can't deny that there is an undercurrent in the US which seems to regard demonstrations as somehow subverting the normal democratic process. It's widespread along the political spectrum but it seems to be strongest on the right. The Tea party is an exception, so this might be changing.
And about class war: when the rich are gaining at the expense of the non-rich it's not class war, but the other way around it suddenly become class war. This view is obviously found mostly on the right.

[Keystone Phil]

I for one don't hate people for how much money they have. Then again, I also don't hate people for supporting differing causes.

Great! Neither do I. I'm so glad you're on our team, fighting the Scumbaggers!

I'm convinced you're trolling now.

Not sure how I'm trolling. He's free to correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Fezzy was implying that I hate people because of the money they have (which is hilariously ironic considering the movement I am criticizing in this thread) and hate those that support differing causes (which is asinine but I guess it's easier to just say "Well, you hate everyone that disagrees with you!").

[Peeperkorn]

A rabble of hipsters believing they can play to be heroes of the world ("America"=The World).

If they really wanted to be more serious they should have burnt down a bank or two.

[Lief 🗽]

Slavoj Žižek supports OWS, so it's obviously a freedom movement.

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http://www.imposemagazine.com/bytes/slavoj-zizek-at-occupy-wall-street-transcript

[Keystone Phil]

Please note: Tea Partiers are "dangerous" but when the Invaders say that violence will be necessary to achieve their goals...well...it's just more of Phil's anecdotes!

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/11/occupy-l-a-speaker-violence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/


Definitely a movement of peace.

[Link]

Uh...this thread is about people's opinions of the Scumbagger movement, not the Democrats.

wow.  Priests are scumbaggers now?!  Am I the only one that thinks Republicans have gone completely insane?  Mormons are cultists.  Priests are scumbaggers.  Can you tell us who you are NOT at war with?

[Keystone Phil]

It's a shame that a few good men got lost and ended up in the middle of the freak show. Look at how angry they are!

[Peeperkorn]

Please note: Tea Partiers are "dangerous" but when the Invaders say that violence will be necessary to achieve their goals...well...it's just more of Phil's anecdotes!

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/11/occupy-l-a-speaker-violence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/


Definitely a movement of peace.

There's no revolution without (lots of) violence. But this kids only want to appear in the news a couple of days and that's all.