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« Reply #325 on: December 19, 2011, 10:58:11 AM »

I haven't been thinking along those lines, personally.  However, I know that these men and women are human and they can easily have a George Allen moment just as easy as the rest of us can.  I don't think Sen. Allen was sincere in the 'macaca' verbage, it was just a slip of the tongue, IMO, and being on the statewide stage like that, was blown up more than it would be if you or me were to say the same thing.
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« Reply #326 on: December 19, 2011, 11:02:47 AM »

Asian stock indexes are already feeling the pain. Korea's Kospi tumbled 5% after the announcement, and other East Asian markets are following suit. China's Shanghai index is already down by 2.5%, so who knows what will happen once markets reopen.
Wait, why would the death of the leader of North Korea, the most isolated country in the world, effect stocks?

They don't know how the new leadership of NK will act, all they know is that Kim never started Korean War II.
 
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« Reply #327 on: December 21, 2011, 12:39:47 PM »

This kind of reminds me of the time someone (Wonkish?) claimed that Obama was further to the left than Dilma Rousseff. Grin

Dilma Rousseff may have been a commie revolutionary when she was a kid, but that isn't what she is today. Barack Obama is to the left of Dilma today. She is for privatization of various government services Barack has never once been in support of that. In Brazil she is pro expansion of energy even when its dirty energy on the contrary Barack blocked Keystone and shutdown off shore drilling for the better part of a year by executive fiat. She also respects contract law, with Barack he had his administration goons go out to the GM bond holders and threaten them if they didn't accept the high hair cut Barack demanded(something many poor elderly people were counting on and where they lost a lot of money by force) also he advocated the ability of a judge to void a mortgage contract. You're talking about a woman who frequently got into almost violent fights with people who advocated a statist method of fixing everything when she was a bureaucrat. She is pro-life and Barack was the only Democrat in Illinois to vote to force doctors to kill a fetus that was still alive after a botched abortion. She is anti gay marriage. I'm pretty sure Barack is pro civil union.

Ultimately, Dilma Rousseff is a welfare capitalist who is conservative on social issues. Barack Obama isn't a welfare capitalist because he wants the state to administer everything he can land his hands on and that is completely different than Dilma. Furthermore, he is to left on social issues. So yeah this discussion isn't even close.

And by the way I don't expect a 11 year old who focuses entirely on the fact that she was a guerrilla about 30 years ago to get into this level of detail.

The brilliant thing about this is that not only is there someone who thinks that Barack Obama is more left-wing than Dilma Rousseff, but that he doesn't even consider it close.
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« Reply #328 on: December 21, 2011, 12:54:08 PM »

This kind of reminds me of the time someone (Wonkish?) claimed that Obama was further to the left than Dilma Rousseff. Grin

Dilma Rousseff may have been a commie revolutionary when she was a kid, but that isn't what she is today. Barack Obama is to the left of Dilma today. She is for privatization of various government services Barack has never once been in support of that. In Brazil she is pro expansion of energy even when its dirty energy on the contrary Barack blocked Keystone and shutdown off shore drilling for the better part of a year by executive fiat. She also respects contract law, with Barack he had his administration goons go out to the GM bond holders and threaten them if they didn't accept the high hair cut Barack demanded(something many poor elderly people were counting on and where they lost a lot of money by force) also he advocated the ability of a judge to void a mortgage contract. You're talking about a woman who frequently got into almost violent fights with people who advocated a statist method of fixing everything when she was a bureaucrat. She is pro-life and Barack was the only Democrat in Illinois to vote to force doctors to kill a fetus that was still alive after a botched abortion. She is anti gay marriage. I'm pretty sure Barack is pro civil union.

Ultimately, Dilma Rousseff is a welfare capitalist who is conservative on social issues. Barack Obama isn't a welfare capitalist because he wants the state to administer everything he can land his hands on and that is completely different than Dilma. Furthermore, he is to left on social issues. So yeah this discussion isn't even close.

And by the way I don't expect a 11 year old who focuses entirely on the fact that she was a guerrilla about 30 years ago to get into this level of detail.

The brilliant thing about this is that not only is there someone who thinks that Barack Obama is more left-wing than Dilma Rousseff, but that he doesn't even consider it close.

Well, it's Wonkish.
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« Reply #329 on: December 21, 2011, 01:48:34 PM »

Fox News has really done a number on the poor kid...
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« Reply #330 on: December 21, 2011, 03:22:26 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2011, 03:30:14 PM by opebo »

Fox News has really done a number on the poor kid...

precisely my point in another thread where the self-satisfied little enpty-heads are enjoying poo-pooing poor old North Korea - most americans are just as 'mind-controlled' as any North Korean.  This Wonk is a great example.
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« Reply #331 on: December 21, 2011, 05:16:11 PM »

This kind of reminds me of the time someone (Wonkish?) claimed that Obama was further to the left than Dilma Rousseff. Grin

Dilma Rousseff may have been a commie revolutionary when she was a kid, but that isn't what she is today. Barack Obama is to the left of Dilma today. She is for privatization of various government services Barack has never once been in support of that. In Brazil she is pro expansion of energy even when its dirty energy on the contrary Barack blocked Keystone and shutdown off shore drilling for the better part of a year by executive fiat. She also respects contract law, with Barack he had his administration goons go out to the GM bond holders and threaten them if they didn't accept the high hair cut Barack demanded(something many poor elderly people were counting on and where they lost a lot of money by force) also he advocated the ability of a judge to void a mortgage contract. You're talking about a woman who frequently got into almost violent fights with people who advocated a statist method of fixing everything when she was a bureaucrat. She is pro-life and Barack was the only Democrat in Illinois to vote to force doctors to kill a fetus that was still alive after a botched abortion. She is anti gay marriage. I'm pretty sure Barack is pro civil union.

Ultimately, Dilma Rousseff is a welfare capitalist who is conservative on social issues. Barack Obama isn't a welfare capitalist because he wants the state to administer everything he can land his hands on and that is completely different than Dilma. Furthermore, he is to left on social issues. So yeah this discussion isn't even close.

And by the way I don't expect a 11 year old who focuses entirely on the fact that she was a guerrilla about 30 years ago to get into this level of detail.

The brilliant thing about this is that not only is there someone who thinks that Barack Obama is more left-wing than Dilma Rousseff, but that he doesn't even consider it close.

LOL the hilarious part is that you completely gave up any attempt to defend your position. Again don't expect a 11 year old kid(like you) to ever go into any detail.

Way to give up and then broadcast it to more people, LOL!
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« Reply #332 on: December 21, 2011, 05:18:22 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2011, 05:20:55 PM by Wonkish1 »

Fox News has really done a number on the poor kid...

precisely my point in another thread where the self-satisfied little enpty-heads are enjoying poo-pooing poor old North Korea - most americans are just as 'mind-controlled' as any North Korean.  This Wonk is a great example.

Opebo its quite easy for me to use "mind control"(I mean how stupid of a notion is that) on you given how much I can get you to run around in circles and argue with yourself. If I ever want to screw with you for my own amusement its pretty easy.
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« Reply #333 on: December 21, 2011, 05:23:56 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.
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« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2011, 05:26:02 PM »
« Edited: December 21, 2011, 05:30:37 PM by Oakvale »

This kind of reminds me of the time someone (Wonkish?) claimed that Obama was further to the left than Dilma Rousseff. Grin

Dilma Rousseff may have been a commie revolutionary when she was a kid, but that isn't what she is today. Barack Obama is to the left of Dilma today. She is for privatization of various government services Barack has never once been in support of that. In Brazil she is pro expansion of energy even when its dirty energy on the contrary Barack blocked Keystone and shutdown off shore drilling for the better part of a year by executive fiat. She also respects contract law, with Barack he had his administration goons go out to the GM bond holders and threaten them if they didn't accept the high hair cut Barack demanded(something many poor elderly people were counting on and where they lost a lot of money by force) also he advocated the ability of a judge to void a mortgage contract. You're talking about a woman who frequently got into almost violent fights with people who advocated a statist method of fixing everything when she was a bureaucrat. She is pro-life and Barack was the only Democrat in Illinois to vote to force doctors to kill a fetus that was still alive after a botched abortion. She is anti gay marriage. I'm pretty sure Barack is pro civil union.

Ultimately, Dilma Rousseff is a welfare capitalist who is conservative on social issues. Barack Obama isn't a welfare capitalist because he wants the state to administer everything he can land his hands on and that is completely different than Dilma. Furthermore, he is to left on social issues. So yeah this discussion isn't even close.

And by the way I don't expect a 11 year old who focuses entirely on the fact that she was a guerrilla about 30 years ago to get into this level of detail.

The brilliant thing about this is that not only is there someone who thinks that Barack Obama is more left-wing than Dilma Rousseff, but that he doesn't even consider it close.

LOL the hilarious part is that you completely gave up any attempt to defend your position. Again don't expect a 11 year old kid(like you) to ever go into any detail.

Look Wonkish, if you make a post that's just plain silly there's no real point in anyone trying to refute it. Clearly you've decided that Obama's a socialist - more left-wing than the socialist President of Brazil, even - and nothing's going to change your mind. I lack the bug that drives some people to attempt arguing with you, and don't have the time or energy to engage with this third-rate hackery even if I did.

Incidentally, I may be ten years old (or whatever age you've decided I am) but at least I don't post elaborate fantasies in which I'm employed as a highly-paid financial wizard. *cough*

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« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2011, 05:26:12 PM »

Fox News has really done a number on the poor kid...

precisely my point in another thread where the self-satisfied little enpty-heads are enjoying poo-pooing poor old North Korea - most americans are just as 'mind-controlled' as any North Korean.  This Wonk is a great example.

Opebo its quite easy for me to use "mind control"(I mean how stupid of a notion is that) on you given how much I can get you to run around in circles and argue with yourself. If I ever want to screw with you for my own amusement its pretty easy.

That's great little buddy, but the mind control I was talking about isn't one exersized by one insignificant nobody over another, but one exersized by the whole society from the hour of our birth - you and I have both been subjected to quite similar brain washing.
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« Reply #336 on: December 21, 2011, 05:31:29 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.

LOL! Oh okay, buddy!
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« Reply #337 on: December 21, 2011, 05:41:07 PM »

This kind of reminds me of the time someone (Wonkish?) claimed that Obama was further to the left than Dilma Rousseff. Grin

Dilma Rousseff may have been a commie revolutionary when she was a kid, but that isn't what she is today. Barack Obama is to the left of Dilma today. She is for privatization of various government services Barack has never once been in support of that. In Brazil she is pro expansion of energy even when its dirty energy on the contrary Barack blocked Keystone and shutdown off shore drilling for the better part of a year by executive fiat. She also respects contract law, with Barack he had his administration goons go out to the GM bond holders and threaten them if they didn't accept the high hair cut Barack demanded(something many poor elderly people were counting on and where they lost a lot of money by force) also he advocated the ability of a judge to void a mortgage contract. You're talking about a woman who frequently got into almost violent fights with people who advocated a statist method of fixing everything when she was a bureaucrat. She is pro-life and Barack was the only Democrat in Illinois to vote to force doctors to kill a fetus that was still alive after a botched abortion. She is anti gay marriage. I'm pretty sure Barack is pro civil union.

Ultimately, Dilma Rousseff is a welfare capitalist who is conservative on social issues. Barack Obama isn't a welfare capitalist because he wants the state to administer everything he can land his hands on and that is completely different than Dilma. Furthermore, he is to left on social issues. So yeah this discussion isn't even close.

And by the way I don't expect a 11 year old who focuses entirely on the fact that she was a guerrilla about 30 years ago to get into this level of detail.

The brilliant thing about this is that not only is there someone who thinks that Barack Obama is more left-wing than Dilma Rousseff, but that he doesn't even consider it close.

LOL the hilarious part is that you completely gave up any attempt to defend your position. Again don't expect a 11 year old kid(like you) to ever go into any detail.

Look Wonkish, if you make a post that's just plain silly there's no real point in anyone trying to refute it. Clearly you've decided that Obama's a socialist - more left-wing than the socialist President of Brazil, even - and nothing's going to change your mind. I lack the bug that drives some people to attempt arguing with you, and don't have the time or energy to engage with this third-rate hackery even if I did.

Incidentally, I may be ten years old (or whatever age you've decided I am) but at least I don't post elaborate fantasies in which I'm employed as a highly-paid financial wizard. *cough*

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No you just don't know much about the subject so that is why you aren't going to try to refute it. To do so would just show even more people how clueless you are.

So what makes Dilma a socialist and Obama not then? Because I think the facts posted above make a pretty strong case that Dilma is to the right of Obama today. Or do just prefer to talk in platitudes without any real points to make?

Ask Beet, Gustaf, and Clarence whether or not they believe I work in finance. They will laugh at your wishful thinking bull$hit given the conversations we've had.


Well you didn't defend a position so yeah your just advertising to folks that you gave up. You can do that if you want. Just pointing it out!

And my posts on here have carried a hell of a lot more factual information than yours have. My tone aside I wouldn't try to criticize because it would make it even more clear how little you contribute.
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« Reply #338 on: December 21, 2011, 06:04:06 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.

LOL! Oh okay, buddy!

Thanks for proving my point once again Smiley
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« Reply #339 on: December 21, 2011, 06:06:45 PM »

We are in fact aware that there's a different historical, cultural, and economic situation, just in general, in Brazil to the one in the United States, right?
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« Reply #340 on: December 21, 2011, 06:08:51 PM »

We are in fact aware that there's a different historical, cultural, and economic situation, just in general, in Brazil to the one in the United States, right?

That's ridiculous. Every country is exactly the same as America.
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« Reply #341 on: December 21, 2011, 06:09:39 PM »

We are in fact aware that there's a different historical, cultural, and economic situation, just in general, in Brazil to the one in the United States, right?

Very much so.

If we are going to look at every country politics with narrow glasses of American politics, like nothing else exists, then I suspect an typical European Social Democrat is, in fact, a baby-eating Khmer Rouge?
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« Reply #342 on: December 21, 2011, 06:11:48 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.

LOL! Oh okay, buddy!

Thanks for proving my point once again Smiley

Cute! Funny how I legitimately wonder about your intelligence enough to ponder whether you even picked up on the sarcasm.
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« Reply #343 on: December 21, 2011, 06:13:20 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.

LOL! Oh okay, buddy!

Thanks for proving my point once again Smiley

Cute! Funny how I legitimately wonder about your intelligence enough to ponder whether you even picked up on the sarcasm.

You need to develop an ability to make sacrastic remark first. Then we'll talk, buddy.
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« Reply #344 on: December 21, 2011, 06:19:16 PM »

I for one believe Wonkish works in Finance. He seems both stupid and smug enough for that sort of background.
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« Reply #345 on: December 21, 2011, 06:21:19 PM »

We are in fact aware that there's a different historical, cultural, and economic situation, just in general, in Brazil to the one in the United States, right?

I don't dispute that and we have to also add political situation as well. Obama is limited on what he can pass. So do you judge a person based on what they can pass or what they want to pass.

Right now Dilma is in the process of bringing her party considerably more to the center. Obama gets ticked because 60 Dem senators weren't liberal enough for him.

Dilma has proclivities towards allowing the free market to take a greater chunk of the economy while increasing or keeping stable the amount of transfer payments by utilizing the private sector deliver on them. Obama prefers using the public sector to administer, manage, and control the transfer payments and to even in a few instances(student loans, automakers, to some extent banking, to some extent healthcare, etc.) take over parts or all of an industry.

In this particular case "Workers Party" and "Democratic Party" are deceiving. The labels don't point to who is more left than the other, but the records, beliefs, positions, etc. do!
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« Reply #346 on: December 21, 2011, 06:23:32 PM »

Obama's socialism is just as real as Wonkish1's intelligence.

LOL! Oh okay, buddy!

Thanks for proving my point once again Smiley

Cute! Funny how I legitimately wonder about your intelligence enough to ponder whether you even picked up on the sarcasm.

You need to develop an ability to make sacrastic remark first. Then we'll talk, buddy.

Oh $hit I was right to wonder if you did. Wow, admitting your to slow to pick up on it isn't helping your case!
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« Reply #347 on: December 21, 2011, 06:27:12 PM »

I for one believe Wonkish works in Finance. He seems both stupid and smug enough for that sort of background.

Gee there's another personal attack. I say that word directed at a person directly and I get points, yet look at how much you aren't even worried about getting mod'ed.

This comes off of being called a d*ck just a couple days ago.
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« Reply #348 on: December 21, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »

So Wonkish "doesn't understand the culture" of Brazil when he states that Obama's positions are to the left of Dilma Rouseff's (factually accurate), but when certain types compare US politics to foreign countries and say sh!t like "Obama would be a Tory and Michelle Bachmann would be a BNP supporter!" (which are, actually in this case, laughably false), they clearly have a wonderful understanding of the respective cultures of both America and whatever country they are comparing it too.
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« Reply #349 on: December 21, 2011, 06:29:53 PM »

Feel free to report me if you really feel insulted.

(Though strictly speaking I said 'seem', so really that's only about your online persona, not about 'you yourself', and all that stuff, you know, but yeah seriously, feel free to report me.)
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