2012 NDP leadership convention

[RogueBeaver]

Gagnon: Topp tops the game.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lysiane-gagnon/ndp-contender-at-the-topp-of-his-game/article2169560/


Poll: Dippers want Mulcair, Grits want premature restoration.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Orange+Crush+just+blip/5422727/story.html

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

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A few more news stories like that and you'll have me convinced he's a Quebecois.

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And a few more stories like that and you might even get me to vote for the guy.

[Holmes]

Mulcair has been acting like a baby today, apparently. According to the media, anyway. Says he sees no hope of winning the leadership if the party doesn't do membership drives in Quebec. He should look into broadening his appeal outside of Quebec, otherwise I wouldn't want to see him run a federal campaign.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I can just see him crying because the Media is being mean to him in the 2015 election

[Hatman 🍁]

Mulcair better smarten up, or he may  everything up for the party.

[Holmes]

I want to see him succeed. He seems so passionate and great when things are going his way, but when they're not, well... I'll definitely look into other candidates who are not named Topp in the meantime.

[RogueBeaver]

Only 1600/90000 NDP members are Quebecers. The math definitely isn't working for him right now.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Only 1600/90000 NDP members are Quebecers. The math definitely isn't working for him right now.

To the photocopier!

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

1 out of every 30 Quebec NDP members is an MP

[DL]

I think that the number of NDP members in Quebec is actually somewhat higher than 1,650. That number was from a couple of months ago and I've heard that quite a few memberships came in over the summer. It may be closer to 3,000 by now.

[MaxQue]

I think that the number of NDP members in Quebec is actually somewhat higher than 1,650. That number was from a couple of months ago and I've heard that quite a few memberships came in over the summer. It may be closer to 3,000 by now.

Riding associations are preparing membership drives, from what I know.
Not than it is surprising.

[lilTommy]

OK, i am so tired of this... just because hes from Quebec doesn't mean that no one from the rest of Canada will vote for him! (sorry, NDP members wont vote for him) the logic that says party members will ONLY vote for the "home town boy" is ridiculous.
Jack won over the west, and he was seen as the epitome of Toronto, and many people hate TO because its TO.
Alexa won in the late 90's and at that time we had NO seats east of Manitoba...
Topp is a quebecer but we don't hear the same things now do we? Topp is living (i believe, someone can correct me) in TO, i live here too, but i am in no ways voting for him.

NDPers will vote for whoever they feel can a) represent the party b) represents their beliefs and c) can win.

So lets (those fellow NDPers) focus on rebuilding the membership in PQ and SASK and everywhere instead of jumping into a numbers game that just isn't logical. Those who think that the west, and ON will vote en-block do not know the NDP.

OK rant over

[minionofmidas]

1 out of every 30 Quebec NDP members is an MP

[lilTommy]

Word out from Megan Leslie, via Facebook... she won't run:

"Friends, thank you so much for all your encouragement to consider running for the leadership of the NDP. Your support means so much to me. After a lot of reflection, I have decided that it's not the right time for me. I've put my thoughts into this note to share with all of you. Thank you"

In for sure: Saganash, Topp
Expected: Mulcair, Dewar, Nash, Julian

[Holmes]

uugh.

Might be looking into supporting Dewar, depending on how Mulcair runs his campaign.

[RogueBeaver]

Depends who runs in English Canada: Nash, Julian, Dewar, or a combination thereof.

[RogueBeaver]

Dewar and Ashton might run, a draft-Julian movement is budding and Davies is out.

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/dailyupdate/view/ottawa_mp_dewar_set_to_run_for_ndp_leadership_sources_09-20-2011

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ashton-eyes-taking-run-at-federal-ndp-leadership-130255158.html

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Vancouver+veteran+Davies+opts+against+leadership+race/5437829/story.html

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Ashton should run; if anyone else finishes last it'd be embarrassing.

So where are we now?

Yes: Topp, Saganash,

Maybe: Mulcair, Nash, Davies, Julian, Ashton, Chisholm, Dewar

No: Leslie, Davies


Edit to add in Chisholm. Dewar.

[DL]

You forgot Robert Chisholm who sounds like he's definitely running.

[RogueBeaver]

Teddy, you forgot Dewar on the maybe list. I'm more interested if both Nash and Julian will run.

[Hatman 🍁]

Niki Ashton would be interesting. I had a big crush on her at the '08 convention.

[RogueBeaver]

Niki Ashton would be interesting. I had a big crush on her at the '08 convention.

Far too young and inexperienced, she'd only be running to raise her profile- and she's quite high profile already.

[DL]

She's not that inexperienced. She ran in 2006 lost, ran again in 2008 and won so she has 3 years exp. in parliament. She speaks 5 languages - including impeccable French. She also had Michael Moore come and campaign for her in Thompson MB. I agree she would be a longshot - but she would add a lot to the race.

[lilTommy]

She's not that inexperienced. She ran in 2006 lost, ran again in 2008 and won so she has 3 years exp. in parliament. She speaks 5 languages - including impeccable French. She also had Michael Moore come and campaign for her in Thompson MB. I agree she would be a longshot - but she would add a lot to the race.

Maybe raising her profile isn't such a bad thing, if that means having a westerner in the race. She would be the best candidates who could help rebuild the Sask membership, expand it in MAN & ALTA, shes the most atttractive MP for young people to identify with. Plus her father is a cabinet minister (ok i hope he still is after october) and he just ran a leadership race so there would be a fountain on experience with him.

[RogueBeaver]

Those things DL mentioned don't count as experience. Because if we apply that standard to the Liberals, they should acclaim Trudeau for permanent right now. He's impeccably bilingual, young, charismatic, dynastic and has 3 years in Parliament. But he's the first to admit that now is too early, same applies for Megan Leslie. In a leadership cycle or 2, Ashton can run. But not now.