What Should The Age of Consent Be?

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I'm not really comfortable with having blanket ages for things because individuals are so different in their competency and teenagers are way more capable than typically assumed now (or at least, when treated with respect they are). Although if I had to set an age limit, I'd probably change it to something like 13 or 16 with age based exceptions so teens could have sex without one or both of them having to worry about being on a public sex offender list the rest of their life.

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I'm not really comfortable with having blanket ages for things because individuals are so different in their competency and teenagers are way more capable than typically assumed now (or at least, when treated with respect they are). Although if I had to set an age limit, I'd probably change it to something like 13 or 16 with age based exceptions so teens could have sex without one or both of them having to worry about being on a public sex offender list the rest of their life.

That's actually how I feel.  I think that, ideally, things like this should be considered on a case-by-case basis.  There are plenty of youngins who are quite like what we'd consider "mature" and "grown up," and then there are people my age who aren't that much more "mature" than a sixteen year old.

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I'm not really comfortable with having blanket ages for things because individuals are so different in their competency and teenagers are way more capable than typically assumed now (or at least, when treated with respect they are). Although if I had to set an age limit, I'd probably change it to something like 13 or 16 with age based exceptions so teens could have sex without one or both of them having to worry about being on a public sex offender list the rest of their life.

That's actually how I feel.  I think that, ideally, things like this should be considered on a case-by-case basis.  There are plenty of youngins who are quite like what we'd consider "mature" and "grown up," and then there are people my age who aren't that much more "mature" than a sixteen year old.

Yeah, although obviously that's problematic. Enforcing the varying ages we have now is already a headache especially with the amount of people that lie or have fake IDs. Just imagine having to guess who was ruled competent without even having a generalization like age to fall back on.

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I'm not really comfortable with having blanket ages for things because individuals are so different in their competency and teenagers are way more capable than typically assumed now (or at least, when treated with respect they are). Although if I had to set an age limit, I'd probably change it to something like 13 or 16 with age based exceptions so teens could have sex without one or both of them having to worry about being on a public sex offender list the rest of their life.

That's actually how I feel.  I think that, ideally, things like this should be considered on a case-by-case basis.  There are plenty of youngins who are quite like what we'd consider "mature" and "grown up," and then there are people my age who aren't that much more "mature" than a sixteen year old.

Yeah, although obviously that's problematic. Enforcing the varying ages we have now is already a headache especially with the amount of people that lie or have fake IDs. Just imagine having to guess who was ruled competent without even having a generalization like age to fall back on.

Oh, of course, which is why I said ideally.  But actually, what I had in mind was something where individual cases of possible statutory rape and such are treated in such a way, rather than everyone taking a "capability to consent to sex" test every year, or somesuch.  Though that too would be problematic.

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Agreed. In any event, calling teenagers 'children' who can't make their own decisions is ridiculous and has no basis in human nature or how societies have functioned (up until maybe 20th century) at all. Worse still, almost everyone knows it given how it's expected people will lose their virginity sometime before their 20s and all those people who make comments about 'wishing they had a teacher like that' when Letourneau-type cases happen. It's just another example of how hypocritical and authoritarian American society really is now (and to some extent always was).

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16.

I would make it 18 for sex work.

If its a couple of teenagers having sex with each other then I guess I would make it ok if they were withing 1-2 years of age.

If the woman is below 18 then I would not allow her to have sex with anyone who was older than 19.

The problem you run into is that a lot of these 16 year old pregnant high school drop outs have kids with men much older than themselves.  If you kept the 25 year olds away from the 16 year olds it would certainly help the problem.

As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

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Eh, 17 is about right. 15 or even 16 sounds just a little bit too young.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

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18, unless both involved are within two years of age. But it should really only apply to men, MILFs can f**k all the underage boys (or girls if they are lesbian) they want, even if they are that kid's teacher.

Also no marriage should be recognized if the man's age is greater than double the woman's/other man's age minus seven years. Older women can still marry young guys though, and lesbians can marry whatever. But no one under 18 can be married under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

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18, unless both involved are within two years of age. But it should really only apply to men, MILFs can f**k all the underage boys (or girls if they are lesbian) they want, even if they are that kid's teacher.

Also no marriage should be recognized if the man's age is greater than double the woman's/other man's age minus seven years. Older women can still marry young guys though, and lesbians can marry whatever. But no one under 18 can be married under absolutely any circumstances whatsoever.

DAMN!!! Are you a MILF or just a MILF fetishist?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Well I'm seeing a woman who has a son the same age as my brother...

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

She looks like an older, blonde Alice Glass, with the same clothing style.  I can PM you a picture of her if you'd like.  She looks rather nice, in my opinion.

And, as I said, she thinks I'm a freak.  Actually, she most likely just thinks of me as a dumb kid.  So even if I wanted to, I'll likely never be able to bang her.

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Well I'm seeing a woman who has a son the same age as my brother...

Excellent.



This is sooo much better than talking about politics. 

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

She looks like an older, blonde Alice Glass, with the same clothing style.  I can PM you a picture of her if you'd like.  She looks rather nice, in my opinion.

And, as I said, she thinks I'm a freak.  Actually, she most likely just thinks of me as a dumb kid.  So even if I wanted to, I'll likely never be able to bang her.

Definitely PM that thing.  I need to see what we're working with here.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

She looks like an older, blonde Alice Glass, with the same clothing style.  I can PM you a picture of her if you'd like.  She looks rather nice, in my opinion.

And, as I said, she thinks I'm a freak.  Actually, she most likely just thinks of me as a dumb kid.  So even if I wanted to, I'll likely never be able to bang her.

Definitely PM that thing.  I need to see what we're working with here.

Sent

Though, I don't know if I could ever speak to her again.  I'd die from embarrassment.

[Mechaman]

I love the hypocrisy in this thread.

As for the age of consent...........how does NONE sound?

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

She looks like an older, blonde Alice Glass, with the same clothing style.  I can PM you a picture of her if you'd like.  She looks rather nice, in my opinion.

And, as I said, she thinks I'm a freak.  Actually, she most likely just thinks of me as a dumb kid.  So even if I wanted to, I'll likely never be able to bang her.

Definitely PM that thing.  I need to see what we're working with here.

Sent

Though, I don't know if I could ever speak to her again.  I'd die from embarrassment.

Got it.  I sent a reply.  She seems nice.  Life sucks sometimes.  But it will get better.

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I love the hypocrisy in this thread.

As for the age of consent...........how does NONE sound?

Like a recipe for disaster.

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I suppose the name could be changed from "age of consent."  Or perhaps the "age of consent" could be set at 14 and there could be a different categories for older girls.  Even if a girl gives her consent there needs to be some type of law in place to prevent a 22 year old male from having sex with a 16 year old girl.

[Mechaman]

I love the hypocrisy in this thread.

As for the age of consent...........how does NONE sound?

Like a recipe for disaster.

You must be logged in to read this quote.

I suppose the name could be changed from "age of consent."  Or perhaps the "age of consent" could be set at 14 and there could be a different categories for older girls.  Even if a girl gives her consent there needs to be some type of law in place to prevent a 22 year old male from having sex with a 16 year old girl.

Hmm that's odd, so you're pretty much implying that only girls can get raped or taken advantage of?
I'm sorry, but the type of suggestion you and others are advancing is pure blatant sexism.  Only grown women should be able to have sex with people underage?  I mean really, how is that not inconsistent logic?
Also, what about the half of the million who are not in their twenties or older who do get teenage girls pregnant?  Why is it so important for you to focus on the guys who are over 20 who happen to be the father in teenage pregnancies anyway?  I mean considering that "half" of the million pregnancies are over 20 and the age range you're talking about girls is ages 15-17 that means that there are about as much (give or take on the half) guys in the age range of 11-19 who are knocking up the teenage girls as the OVER 20 crowd.  I could possibly understand a guy who is like 40 but a 22 year old having sex with a 16 year old?  Really dude?
Also, in your own quoted source it is mentioned that "many", not just a few, of the girls have sex willingly with older men.  It only mentions that "others are doing it against their will", kind of like how in Russia there are women who are having sex against their will or how there are some Hispanic women having sex against their will.  Maybe we should create laws preventing men from having sex with women in Russia or Hispanic women?

Fact: Guys mature slower than girls.  If anything a 22 year old male having sex with a 16 year old girl is *gasp* more natural than a 22 year old female having sex with a 16 year old boy.  That is NATURE, not my own personal bias talking.  But of course like I mentioned earlier I'm in favor of consistent and equal enforcement of laws, not the "feel-good" method.

EDIT: Just realized I made booboo in original post.
EDIT: Yeah, double booboo.
EDIT: Reworded some of the post after I realized it might come off a little too harsh.

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As for the MILF phenomenon that is sweeping the nation there should be a law that states if a woman is impregnated by a teenager 8 years younger than her he has no child support responsibilities, ever.

Oh cool so I could bang that 31 year old Swedish chick without contraceptives.  I know what you meant, I'm just having fun.

Yes.  If you are a teenager have at it.  I'm serious.

Although I must say Scandinavian women of any age in general probably wouldn't have sex with you without some type of contraception.  From my experience they are VERY on the ball about that sort of thing.

She thinks I'm a freak anyways.

And I'm nineteen.  I assumed you meant under eighteen, but I was just having fun because you said "teenager," which includes eighteen and nineteen.

Oh, got ya.  I wasn't even thinking.

But in all seriousness is this Swede fine?  I would hit that.  With a condom of course.  Hit it and come back and tell us about it, but only if she's hot.  If she's not hot don't do it.  Or at least don't tell us about it.  I await your report.

She looks like an older, blonde Alice Glass, with the same clothing style.  I can PM you a picture of her if you'd like.  She looks rather nice, in my opinion.

And, as I said, she thinks I'm a freak.  Actually, she most likely just thinks of me as a dumb kid.  So even if I wanted to, I'll likely never be able to bang her.

Definitely PM that thing.  I need to see what we're working with here.

Sent

Though, I don't know if I could ever speak to her again.  I'd die from embarrassment.

Got it.  I sent a reply.  She seems nice.  Life sucks sometimes.  But it will get better.

And I replied back.