SENATE BILL: Atlasian Green Jobs Act (Law'd)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'm fine with your proposals. The government could theoretically turn a profit off the $30B in loans alone to cover the $5B invested in low income businesses. I totally forgot to include regional governments in my amendment. I wrote up another amendment, so disregard the previous one, that divvies up the funds for each project. The only change I made from your proposals is the last one. Community organizations are typically private entities and privately owned by the residents, so I would simply lump that into the private entity claus. I upped the regional amount to $10 billion because I hope these regional governments will go all in in investing in their environments at locally.

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[Fuzzybigfoot]

I'm thinking something like...

$50b package over 4 years.

$30b in loans to business - loan limits to be based on company size and a business plan - by application - application to include the purpose of the loan, and the measurable results (penalties up to double the loan amount will be payable immediately if the money goes elsewhere)
- Interest rate to also be determined by credit-worthiness - maximum of 5%pa - minimum of 2%.

$10b in grants to low-income businesses to undertake green-expansion projects - again with measurable outputs

$5b in loans to regional governments who wish to undertake their own Greening projects  

$5b in grants to community organisations to improve their green-credentials...

Thoughts??

This looks good, but I would like to keep a few billion for our own research and development as well.  It wouldn't make sense if the original bill was scraped entirely. 

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Perhaps take others down to $8bn each and direct the $4bn to a University/Industry collaborative research program?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Perhaps take others down to $8bn each and direct the $4bn to a University/Industry collaborative research program?

Yes, that would be fine.   

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

So are we talking mainly funding for research, infrastructure, clean energy consumption, or a mix?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

So are we talking mainly funding for research, infrastructure, clean energy consumption, or a mix?

It should be as multi-faceted as possible.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

So I put the president's suggestions into bill form:

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What do you guys think?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

So I put the president's suggestions into bill form:

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What do you guys think?

Does Duke want to marry these two together?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I think a large portion of this money should be set aside toward developing a flexible, clean energy grid. I like that this is being directed toward loans, but I don't know if that will result in infrastructure.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The only problem I have with this is the paltry amount being given to regional governments. We could allocate a certain amount of money to developing a clean energy grid, although I have no idea what that means.

I still think we should merge private entities and community organizations, because they really are private entities. Should we move that $4B over to regional governments? Make a separate claus for a clean energy grid, if someone can explain that to me?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

The only problem I have with this is the paltry amount being given to regional governments. We could allocate a certain amount of money to developing a clean energy grid, although I have no idea what that means.

I still think we should merge private entities and community organizations, because they really are private entities. Should we move that $4B over to regional governments? Make a separate claus for a clean energy grid, if someone can explain that to me?

Maybe reroute a bit of the money from the business loans to the regions?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

But fuzzy, I'm a capitalist pig! I want private businesses to be the main benefaciary of these loans!

But my real reason is that if this takes off, we need the private sector to be the ending for job creation. To take a page from our populist friends, it's about the people!

[Fuzzybigfoot]

But fuzzy, I'm a capitalist pig! I want private businesses to be the main benefaciary of these loans!

But my real reason is that if this takes off, we need the private sector to be the ending for job creation. To take a page from our populist friends, it's about the people!

We could make it a $52 b package instead. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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If they are combined, I will put that in as the next available amendment number.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

While I understand the Senator's point about community organisation as being private - I think the position should be more nuanced than that - not just public/private but commercial/not-for-profit.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

OK. It's not that big of a deal, and certainly not one that should hold up this bill from passing.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

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I hope this is the final amendment draft. I really do. I took some from here and there which probably won't make a beans bit of difference in the long run. I hope this will satisfy everyone involved, because it sure does me, and I plan on celebrating hard tonight if everyone else tells me they are a-ok.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

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I hope this is the final amendment draft. I really do. I took some from here and there which probably won't make a beans bit of difference in the long run. I hope this will satisfy everyone involved, because it sure does me, and I plan on celebrating hard tonight if everyone else tells me they are a-ok.

I'm good with it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Notice how I took $5 billion off the private number? Who says I'm not flexible?

[bgwah]

Will university research include animal testing?

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Will university research include animal testing?

I doubt it....  

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think this Bill addresses a lot of needs and does it fairly.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I think this Bill addresses a lot of needs and does it fairly.

Of course you do, you basically wrote it. 

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I think this Bill addresses a lot of needs and does it fairly.

Of course you do, you basically wrote it. 

Oh yeah... yay me!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I think this Bill addresses a lot of needs and does it fairly.

Of course you do, you basically wrote it. 

Excuse me...ahem