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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2011, 11:56:14 AM »

Why would you support the FDP? Nobody supports the FDP. Even Germans don't support the FDP.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 12:47:42 PM »

Not that I've put any intellectual depth into studying the context, but I've always had a soft spot for Lee Kwan Yew and the PAP.
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 01:22:44 PM »

The FDP is to the right of the CDU these days anyway...

The FDP is very socially liberal and that is more important to me than anything else. It isn't as if they would cut everything like Republicans are trying to. I can't say how I'd truly feel unless I lived in Germany I suppose.

Today's FDP is basically a bunch of demented neoliberal hacks. Saying they're better than Republicans isn't really saying much.
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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2011, 12:46:59 PM »

When I do, it's only because the party on "my" side of the spectrum is so morally bankrupt and corrupt that it is indefensible.  (New Democracy in Greece, for example.)

If it were broadened to include parties with views diametrically opposed to mine but generally on the same "side", I'm sure there's plenty.  Lega Nord jumps to mind.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »

When I do, it's only because the party on "my" side of the spectrum is so morally bankrupt and corrupt that it is indefensible.  (New Democracy in Greece, for example.)

If it were broadened to include parties with views diametrically opposed to mine but generally on the same "side", I'm sure there's plenty.  Lega Nord jumps to mind.

Let me understand, did you say you would support the Lega ? Huh
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2011, 01:49:28 PM »

When I do, it's only because the party on "my" side of the spectrum is so morally bankrupt and corrupt that it is indefensible.  (New Democracy in Greece, for example.)

If it were broadened to include parties with views diametrically opposed to mine but generally on the same "side", I'm sure there's plenty.  Lega Nord jumps to mind.

Let me understand, did you say you would support the Lega ? Huh

That's what he's probably saying. I think he has made some Pro Lega Nord comments in one of the Italian election threads. Looking at his Political Matrix scores, it's probably because of LN's stance on economic issues and federalism.
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2011, 04:28:13 AM »

When I do, it's only because the party on "my" side of the spectrum is so morally bankrupt and corrupt that it is indefensible.  (New Democracy in Greece, for example.)

If it were broadened to include parties with views diametrically opposed to mine but generally on the same "side", I'm sure there's plenty.  Lega Nord jumps to mind.

Let me understand, did you say you would support the Lega ? Huh

That's what he's probably saying. I think he has made some Pro Lega Nord comments in one of the Italian election threads. Looking at his Political Matrix scores, it's probably because of LN's stance on economic issues and federalism.

In this case... EPIC FAIL
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2011, 09:38:57 AM »

Being Irish, I do tend to have a soft spot for Sinn Féin, despite it being a socialist party.
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2011, 05:52:01 PM »

I support the Democrats in both Thailand and America, which means right-wing in both countries, but slightly further right in Thailand.
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2011, 06:07:38 PM »

When I do, it's only because the party on "my" side of the spectrum is so morally bankrupt and corrupt that it is indefensible.  (New Democracy in Greece, for example.)

If it were broadened to include parties with views diametrically opposed to mine but generally on the same "side", I'm sure there's plenty.  Lega Nord jumps to mind.

Let me understand, did you say you would support the Lega ? Huh

That's what he's probably saying. I think he has made some Pro Lega Nord comments in one of the Italian election threads. Looking at his Political Matrix scores, it's probably because of LN's stance on economic issues and federalism.

In this case... EPIC FAIL

Phil's right.  I think they're a bit retarded with all of the immigrant hate, but otherwise, they seem somewhat aligned with my own views, at least to the extent than any European party could align with a rabid American libertarian/anarchocapitalist.  I don't support their independence rhetoric but I do support devolution/federalism.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2011, 06:13:41 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2011, 06:16:10 PM by Swedish Cheese »

Well I sort of support Democrats in the US, but they're rather centrist. There are other countries as well where I don't like the right, but I'm not sure I want to go as far as saying I actually support the left there.

Oh and talking about Lega Nord, if you don't count the racism, they actually seem like a good party from what I've read. (Especially from an Italian perspective where most of the parties seem to suck)
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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2011, 06:48:40 PM »

The racism is integral though.
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2011, 07:06:24 PM »


Ah of course, and don't get me wrong, I know the racism in Lega Nord is as much part of it as it is a part of the Danish People's Party or any other populist party in Europe, so I'd never support them myselves.

Actually if I were Italian I'd probably stay home or spoil my ballot. (and there's not a lot of countries I'd say that about)   
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2011, 04:40:54 AM »

Being Irish, I do tend to have a soft spot for Sinn Féin, despite it being a socialist party.

Which decade of the 19th century did your Irish great-great-grandfather emigrate to the US in?
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2011, 05:42:18 AM »
« Edited: July 09, 2011, 05:45:11 AM by Ohne Romney »

The FDP is to the right of the CDU these days anyway...

The FDP is very socially liberal and that is more important to me than anything else. It isn't as if they would cut everything like Republicans are trying to. I can't say how I'd truly feel unless I lived in Germany I suppose.

The FDP originally voted against legalizing same-sex unions back in 2000.

Of course, we don't really have "social issues" here anymore, so it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2011, 10:27:06 AM »

You guys really need to know Lega Nord better. If reading wikipedia's article doesn't make you vomit, it means that article isn't accurate.
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2011, 11:07:46 AM »

You guys really need to know Lega Nord better. If reading wikipedia's article doesn't make you vomit, it means that article isn't accurate.

I don't think people that aren't Italian or follow Italian politics can really understand it. I mean, I'm obviously for federalism but Lega Nord's version of federalism is different. I can understand people on the Right thinking that they like Lega Nord's economic stances but you dig deeper than just a Wikipedia page and find out that their policy is basically, "We hate the south. They're animals. They're North Africans. Cut them off entirely."
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2011, 11:09:09 AM »

The FDP is to the right of the CDU these days anyway...

The FDP is very socially liberal and that is more important to me than anything else. It isn't as if they would cut everything like Republicans are trying to. I can't say how I'd truly feel unless I lived in Germany I suppose.

The FDP originally voted against legalizing same-sex unions back in 2000.

Of course, we don't really have "social issues" here anymore, so it doesn't matter.

The CDU/CSU aren't against abortion? Kind of weird.
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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2011, 11:57:08 AM »
« Edited: July 09, 2011, 12:04:11 PM by Ohne Romney »

The FDP is to the right of the CDU these days anyway...

The FDP is very socially liberal and that is more important to me than anything else. It isn't as if they would cut everything like Republicans are trying to. I can't say how I'd truly feel unless I lived in Germany I suppose.

The FDP originally voted against legalizing same-sex unions back in 2000.

Of course, we don't really have "social issues" here anymore, so it doesn't matter.

The CDU/CSU aren't against abortion? Kind of weird.

Technically they are, I guess.

It's just not an political issue, meaning no political party íntends to change the status quo (which is that abortion is technically illegal, except that the law remains unenforced if the abortion is conducted during the first trimester).
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2011, 12:09:03 PM »

You guys really need to know Lega Nord better. If reading wikipedia's article doesn't make you vomit, it means that article isn't accurate.

I don't think people that aren't Italian or follow Italian politics can really understand it. I mean, I'm obviously for federalism but Lega Nord's version of federalism is different. I can understand people on the Right thinking that they like Lega Nord's economic stances but you dig deeper than just a Wikipedia page and find out that their policy is basically, "We hate the south. They're animals. They're North Africans. Cut them off entirely."

Yeah, definitely. These guys will make the nuttiest of all teabaggers look perfectly sane.
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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2011, 09:18:18 PM »

I would not support the FDP knowing what I know now. I thought they were a social-liberal party.
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« Reply #46 on: July 10, 2011, 05:52:51 PM »

I'd vote FDP, sometimes. I'd vote CD/SU and SDP sometimes, too. Maaaaaaybe Greens.

And happily for any of those four over our Greens, Coalition or ALP.
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« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2011, 09:57:24 PM »

The Labor Party in Israel.
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« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2011, 02:33:47 PM »

Italy is the only place that comes to my mind. I'm a conservative voter, but if I could vote in Italy I would probably support any of the opposition parties.
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« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 03:32:03 PM »

In Israel I'd definitely be a Meretz voter, as one of the few countries where I'd vote for a hard-left party.  Because screw the hawks and warmongers.  Seriously.  I hate 90%+ of the Israeli political spectrum.
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