cain vs. obama: who wins west va?

[WalterMitty]

since either way a negro will be president, do west virginians finally vote their economic self interest?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

since either way a negro will be president, do west virginians finally vote their economic self interest?

Which negro would be best for their economic self interest?

[WalterMitty]

since either way a negro will be president, do west virginians finally vote their economic self interest?

Which negro would be best for their economic self interest?

obama, obviously.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Cain obviously. Obama is attacking WV's biggest industry.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

since either way a negro will be president, do west virginians finally vote their economic self interest?

Which negro would be best for their economic self interest?

obama, obviously.

Sorry, mitty, what as OBiden done for WV again?

[Napoleon]

since either way a negro will be president, do west virginians finally vote their economic self interest?

West Virginia always votes in their economic self-interest. They are a rural state full of coal and agriculture.

[DS0816]

Since first voting in 1864, West Virginia has been in the column of all two-term-elected presidents at least once. Advantage: Obama.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Since first voting in 1864, West Virginia has been in the column of all two-term-elected presidents at least once. Advantage: Obama.

Obama is trying to destroy the coal industry.

Advantage: Cain

[Miles]

Obama

WV is a Democratic state

[Napoleon]

This has to be the first time JCL has ever made sense, and yet everyone else in this thread is so wrong.

[FloridaRepublican]

Obama

WV is a Democratic state

Yeah. And Vermont is a Republican state. Now let's come back to the 2010s.

[Eraserhead]

Obama could win. He is whiter.

[CatoMinor]

Since first voting in 1864, West Virginia has been in the column of all two-term-elected presidents at least once. Advantage: Obama.

with that logic..

Vermont has gone Republican all but 6 times since 1856:
Advantage: Cain

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Much of my family is from West Virginia, and the way this thread has started offends me. Of course Cain will win. Obama has given WV the finger when it comes to Coal, and the people of WV (many came around to him after the mining disaster), are quickly turning against him. Of course, Joe Manchins future hinges on this-does he stick with Obama, or go Liberman/Snowe and keep himself viable for his not so secret 2016 presidential campaign. West Virginia is a state best left alone by Dems-they have much to gain on the local level there (sic, Robert Byrd, Joe Manchin, Nick Rahall), but cant win its small EV number.

[Miles]

keep himself viable for his not so secret 2016 presidential campaign.

Really!?

He'd have my endorsement!

[Niemeyerite]

keep himself viable for his not so secret 2016 presidential campaign.

Really!?

He'd have my endorsement!

Have you become a conservative dixiecrat?

[Miles]

keep himself viable for his not so secret 2016 presidential campaign.

Really!?

He'd have my endorsement!

Have you become a conservative dixiecrat?

I'd consider myself a moderate Dixiecrat

[tmthforu94]

JCL is right. West Virginia may be Democratic on the state level, but when it comes to Presidential elections, they elect Republicans. West Virginia will be one of the last states to vote for Obama regardless of who the GOP nominee is.

[DS0816]

Since first voting in 1864, West Virginia has been in the column of all two-term-elected presidents at least once. Advantage: Obama.

with that logic..

Vermont has gone Republican all but 6 times since 1856:
Advantage: Cain

Clarity: Republicans won Vermont from their first election, in 1856, all the way to 1988 with just one exception: saying no to 1964 Barry Goldwater. Nixon implementing the "Southern strategy" caused Vt. to wake up and reject the Rs. But, in the case of West Virginia, Hillary Clinton would've flipped and carried it in 2008 had she been the D nominee for president. Not as gone as you assume.

[tmthforu94]

Since first voting in 1864, West Virginia has been in the column of all two-term-elected presidents at least once. Advantage: Obama.

with that logic..

Vermont has gone Republican all but 6 times since 1856:
Advantage: Cain

Clarity: Republicans won Vermont from their first election, in 1856, all the way to 1988 with just one exception: saying no to 1964 Barry Goldwater. Nixon implementing the "Southern strategy" caused Vt. to wake up and reject the Rs. But, in the case of West Virginia, Hillary Clinton would've flipped and carried it in 2008 had she been the D nominee for president. Not as gone as you assume.

You seem so confident Clinton could have taken West Virginia, but you have nothing to really back it up, other than Bill won it and she won the primary there. Polling done in early 2008 showed West Virginia as a toss-up between McCain and Clinton.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

JCL is right. West Virginia may be Democratic on the state level, but when it comes to Presidential elections, they elect Republicans. West Virginia will be one of the last states to vote for Obama regardless of who the GOP nominee is.

Another thing is that Obama is precisely the wrong type of Democrat to win West Virginia; a northern, intellectual Harvard graduate with a foreign-sounding name. Hillary would have won WV easily, as would any Democrat with appeal among white blue-collar voters.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

JCL is right. West Virginia may be Democratic on the state level, but when it comes to Presidential elections, they elect Republicans. West Virginia will be one of the last states to vote for Obama regardless of who the GOP nominee is.

Another thing is that Obama is precisely the wrong type of Democrat to win West Virginia; a northern, intellectual Harvard graduate with a foreign-sounding name. Hillary would have won WV easily, as would any Democrat with appeal among white blue-collar voters.

If a Democrat is going to win WV, its gonna be a Clinton-Manchin-Bayh type. People like John Kerry, Howard Dean, and Bill Richardson would never win.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

JCL is right. West Virginia may be Democratic on the state level, but when it comes to Presidential elections, they elect Republicans. West Virginia will be one of the last states to vote for Obama regardless of who the GOP nominee is.

Another thing is that Obama is precisely the wrong type of Democrat to win West Virginia; a northern, intellectual Harvard graduate with a foreign-sounding name. Hillary would have won WV easily, as would any Democrat with appeal among white blue-collar voters.

If a Democrat is going to win WV, its gonna be a Clinton-Manchin-Bayh type. People like John Kerry, Howard Dean, and Bill Richardson would never win.

Richardson is actually pretty moderate, and as seen in several elections in Appalachian/Ozark/Great Plains states even a liberal can be elected in them; Sherrod Brown is a perfect example, winning a lot of southern counties in Ohio, including ones that actually swung Republican in 2008. West Virginia usually votes a lot like those counties. Ted Strickland ran as a populist in 2010, and even though he lost managed to win >55% McCain counties.

[TheGlobalizer]

Notwithstanding the coal issue, they'll vote for VPs.  Edge: Cain.

[Holmes]

Cain hates gays and abortions more.