IA: Des Moines Register: Romney and Bachmann at the top

[Rowan]

Des Moines Register Iowa Poll

Romney: 23%
Bachmann: 22%
Cain: 10%
Gingrich: 7%
Paul: 7%
Pawlenty: 6%
Santorum: 4%
Huntsman: 2%

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/198467/81/Romney-Bachmann-lead-GOP-presidential-field-in-Iowa-poll-finds

[Lief 🗽]

lol Pawlenty.

Also this is excellent news.

[Landslide Lyndon]

lol Pawlenty.

Pawlenty and Hunstman might be the biggest paper tigers since Rudy Giuliani.

Go Michelle!

[Associate Justice PiT]

lol Pawlenty.

Pawlenty and Hunstman might be the biggest paper tigers since Rudy Giuliani.

Go Michelle!

     Giuliani had good poll numbers for a long time. Pawlenty & Hunstman were random non-starters propped up by prognosticators on this forum because they were non-offensive & non-Romney. Slight difference.

[Landslide Lyndon]

lol Pawlenty.

Pawlenty and Hunstman might be the biggest paper tigers since Rudy Giuliani.

Go Michelle!

     Giuliani had good poll numbers for a long time. Pawlenty & Hunstman were random non-starters propped up by prognosticators on this forum because they were non-offensive & non-Romney. Slight difference.

It's not just people on this forum. Beltway journalists have been relentlessly telling us a year now what a great campaign Pawlenty runs and what an awesome candidate Hunstman is.

[RogueBeaver]

Whether Romney or Bachmann win Iowa won't really matter WRT Romney's road to the nomination IMO. His decision not to overinvest there, despite the pundits' tut-tutting, has been at least temporarily vindicated.

T-Paw/Huntsman: More like "Most Plausible Non-Romney", and Pawlenty has the ideological chops to back it up. One's a wimp, the other a RINO- that doesn't change.

[King]

T-Paw is the Bill Richardson of 2012.  The pundits are taking him seriously and the voters can't figure out why.

Bachmann/Cain 2012.

[Associate Justice PiT]

lol Pawlenty.

Pawlenty and Hunstman might be the biggest paper tigers since Rudy Giuliani.

Go Michelle!

     Giuliani had good poll numbers for a long time. Pawlenty & Hunstman were random non-starters propped up by prognosticators on this forum because they were non-offensive & non-Romney. Slight difference.

It's not just people on this forum. Beltway journalists have been relentlessly telling us a year now what a great campaign Pawlenty runs and what an awesome candidate Hunstman is.

     If Pawlenty is running a good campaign, the evidence of that has been pretty well hidden. Only thing I've actually heard about him was the news about his accent gaffes. Otherwise he is pretty invisible. Huntsman probably could be a good candidate, but he's probably also too vanilla to actually get any backing. He seems like the kind of person most people like, but nobody cares about.

[Mr. Morden]

Pawlenty is taken more seriously than Bachmann as a potential nominee because he would actually be acceptable to the party "establishment", and Bachmann wouldn't.  And every GOP presidential nominee for decades has been supported by the party establishment.  Whether that'll continue to be true in the "Tea Party era" remains to be seen.

[Mehmentum]

Yes! 

I'm rooting for Bachmann.

[Meeker]

This is going to be a great year.

[Keystone Phil]

Santorum the Surprise

Cue to the other Santorum jokes.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

In a twisted way I hope Bachmann does become the nominee.

If Romney or Pawlenty or Huntsman or anyone actually capable of governing were to win the primary but barely miss winning the election, the ultra-right will insist that the reason they lost an "easy" election against a Kenyan Muslim is because of their failure to move far enough to the right.  

Of course even if Bachmann is the nominee, they'll say that anyway.  She'll do something "moderate" like opposing concentration camps for gays or wanting to maintain public education... or maybe they'll get on to her for supporting the Constitution rather than the much more America-friendly Articles of Confederation.

[Tender Branson]

Great, just what I expected.

I hope Bachmann doesn't peak to early.

[Tender Branson]

The video to the poll also explains that the pollsters Selzer asked only caucus goers who definitely or probably will attend the caucuses.

That means that Bachmann probably leads among "definite" caucus goers.

[Tender Branson]

For comparison, here's the May 2007 Des Moines Register poll:

30% Romney
18% McCain
17% Giuliani
  7% Thompson
  5% Brownback
  4% Huckabee
  4% Tancredo
  1% Cox
  1% Gilmore
  1% Hunter
12% Undecided

[Landslide Lyndon]

Great, just what I expected.

I hope Bachmann doesn't peak to early.

I'm not an expert but I said from the beginning that Bachmann should be considered the favorite in Iowa. She is a perfect fit for the state's Republicans, can raise lots of money, and has the home state effect to boot.
Her numbers aren't a flavor of the month thing like Trump's or Cain's.

[The Ex-Factor]

Wow Huckabee was running even with Browback and Tancredo.

[Mr. Morden]

For comparison, here's the May 2007 Des Moines Register poll:

30% Romney
18% McCain
17% Giuliani
  7% Thompson
  5% Brownback
  4% Huckabee
  4% Tancredo
  1% Cox
  1% Gilmore
  1% Hunter
12% Undecided

Was that Fred Thompson or Tommy Thompson?

[Landslide Lyndon]

For comparison, here's the May 2007 Des Moines Register poll:

30% Romney
18% McCain
17% Giuliani
  7% Thompson
  5% Brownback
  4% Huckabee
  4% Tancredo
  1% Cox
  1% Gilmore
  1% Hunter
12% Undecided

Was that Fred Thompson or Tommy Thompson?

Fred Thompson hadn't entered the fray in May 2007.

[Mr. Morden]

For comparison, here's the May 2007 Des Moines Register poll:

30% Romney
18% McCain
17% Giuliani
  7% Thompson
  5% Brownback
  4% Huckabee
  4% Tancredo
  1% Cox
  1% Gilmore
  1% Hunter
12% Undecided

Was that Fred Thompson or Tommy Thompson?

Fred Thompson hadn't entered the fray in May 2007.

Yes, but he was included in most polls, because he was publicly flirting with the possibility of running, just like Palin and Perry are now.  He was in double digits in most of the national polls by May 2007.

However, I'm guessing this was probably Tommy Thompson, since it looks like DMR doesn't include candidates who aren't running yet.  Just like they didn't include Palin or Perry in this poll.

[Tender Branson]

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[ZuWo]

Comparing the 2007 with the current poll numbers, I think there is still plenty of time and room to improve for serious candidates like Pawlenty or Huntsman who are now polling in the single digits - Huckabee has shown that it's possible. A candidate like Cain, however, has probably reached his peak. He seems to have been losing ground in the polls recently.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Comparing the 2007 with the current poll numbers, I think there is still plenty of time and room to improve for serious candidates like Pawlenty or Huntsman who are now polling in the single digits - Huckabee has shown that it's possible. A candidate like Cain, however, has probably reached his peak. He seems to have been losing ground in the polls recently.

Hunstman has already declared that he'll skip Iowa, so the whole conversation is moot.

Pawlenty has nowhere near the charisma and charm of Huckabee, nor the natural constituency to strongly support him.

[ZuWo]

Comparing the 2007 with the current poll numbers, I think there is still plenty of time and room to improve for serious candidates like Pawlenty or Huntsman who are now polling in the single digits - Huckabee has shown that it's possible. A candidate like Cain, however, has probably reached his peak. He seems to have been losing ground in the polls recently.

Hunstman has already declared that he'll skip Iowa, so the whole conversation is moot.

Pawlenty has nowhere near the charisma and charm of Huckabee, nor the natural constituency to strongly support him.

Oh yes, I forgot that Huntsman decided to skip Iowa. So he's out of any considerations regarding Iowa of course. As for Pawlenty, he's an evangelical, or at least claims to be one. Maybe evangelicals will eventually rally behind him?