Connecticut Unhappy With Malloy - Part 2
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« on: June 19, 2011, 04:14:41 PM »

YIPP Poll: Unhappy with Malloy
June 14, 2011

Gov. Dannel Malloy’s job approval rating has dropped to 42 percent, and a majority of voters say they would not vote to re-elect him in the wake of the legislative session that saw passage of the largest tax increase in state history, according to a new survey of likely Connecticut voters conducted by Pulse Opinion Research on behalf of the Yankee Institute.

Voters oppose by wide margins every Malloy administration initiative tested in the survey:

• On the budget deal, 57% of voters say the new state budget agreement “spends too much and raises taxes too much,” while 39% describe it as “about as good as could be expected given a weak economy.”
• On the labor union concessions, 49% of voters say state employee unions “did not give up enough and should have been asked for more,” while 36% say “the unions did give up a lot.”
• By a margin of 60-30%, voters describe the $572 million New Britain busway project as “a bad use of taxpayer money.”
• By a margin of 56-25%, voters describe the $864 million UConn Health Center expansion as “a bad use of taxpayer money.”

Opposition to the Malloy administration initiatives is driving poor ratings for Governor Malloy. His job approval rating fell to 42%, while his re-elect rating stands as just 39%. A majority of voters – 51% – say they “probably” or “definitely” would not vote to re-elect him.

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But I've been told that only new Republican governors are unpopular.  Reelect at 39%?  Clearly, under "Walker is unfit for Wisconsin logic", Malloy deserves to be recalled, right?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 06:21:04 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2011, 06:25:13 PM by Verily »

Malloy's problem is a really low approval rating among Democrats. Last we saw, he had a higher approval rating among Republicans than Democrats IIRC, a tough feat for an incumbent Democratic governor.

In other words, he's too conservative and thus unpopular Wink

Edit: Eh, maybe that one had weird crosstabs, but this still has him at 31% with Republicans and 64% with Democrats, which is unusually high among Republicans and unusually low among Democrats for a Democratic governor. Compare to Obama in the same poll, who is also at 31% among Republicans but at 84% among Democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 12:29:36 AM »

Its no biggie, there are GOP governors out there with similar numbers, so obviously he isn't in bad shape [/px75]
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 01:00:53 AM »
« Edited: June 20, 2011, 01:03:19 AM by Confessions To An Early Summer Nightmare »

Its no biggie, there are GOP governors out there with similar numbers, so obviously he isn't in bad shape [/px75]

Actually the reverse of that argument is basically the only thing cynic has used to defend people like Walker and Kasich. He even mentions that with the pointless barb at the end of that original post.

A pretty common "argument" of his actually, when discussing the Wisconsin recalls when he insisted no incumbents would lose and I pointed out polls showing some Republicans in heavily Kloppenburg districts that polls showed way down and his response was basically "Oh well there's a Democrat in a heavily conservative district too.", which sounds more like a logical argument for that both sides could lose seats than that none can.
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 04:17:40 AM »

Seriously, trying to compare Malloy's numbers with those of national jokes like Scott, Kasich and Walker is pretty asinine. 

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2011, 09:43:25 AM »

Its no biggie, there are GOP governors out there with similar numbers, so obviously he isn't in bad shape [/px75]
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2011, 10:17:20 AM »

Seriously, trying to compare Malloy's numbers with those of national jokes like Scott, Kasich and Walker is pretty asinine. 



Malloy's approvals are equal to those of Scott Walker, but they're a different kind of equal.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2011, 10:43:47 AM »

If only Lamont had won the primary. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2011, 11:42:06 AM »

Seriously, trying to compare Malloy's numbers with those of national jokes like Scott, Kasich and Walker is pretty asinine. 



Malloy's approvals are equal to those of Scott Walker, but they're a different kind of equal.

Exactly right despite your asinine sarcasm. Democrats disapproving of a Democratic governor in a Democratic state is different from Democrats and Independents disapproving of a Republican governor in a swing or even lean Democratic state.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2011, 12:29:37 PM »

Seriously, trying to compare Malloy's numbers with those of national jokes like Scott, Kasich and Walker is pretty asinine. 



Malloy's approvals are equal to those of Scott Walker, but they're a different kind of equal.

Exactly right despite your asinine sarcasm. Democrats disapproving of a Democratic governor in a Democratic state is different from Democrats and Independents disapproving of a Republican governor in a swing or even lean Democratic state.

Napolean is dead on. Anyone want to guess whether 90+% of those disaffected Democrats come home and support Malloy's reelection against Caliguiri, or McMahon, or any other likely GOP nominee?
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 02:00:40 PM »

It's kind of moot, because if one is bashing Walker, Kasich or Scott Malloy also being unpopular, regardless of the reason, is a complete red herring.

Imagine if a Democrat defended Blagojevich by pointing out Arnold also had horrendous approvals.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 04:09:42 PM »

From what I've read Malloy's numbers aren't good because he has taken some necessary but unpopular decisions, especially about the budget (similar situation with our government) .

Walker and the rest of the clowns saw their numbers dip because instead of governing they decided that it's a good time to enact a right wing ideological agenda and do things which they never mentioned on the campaign trail (eg. busting unions).
Not to mention corruption (Scott).
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 04:56:48 PM »

From what I've read Malloy's numbers aren't good because he has taken some necessary but unpopular decisions, especially about the budget (similar situation with our government) .

Walker and the rest of the clowns saw their numbers dip because instead of governing they decided that it's a good time to enact a right wing ideological agenda and do things which they never mentioned on the campaign trail (eg. busting unions).
Not to mention corruption (Scott).

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 05:07:53 PM »

From what I've read Malloy's numbers aren't good because he has taken some necessary but unpopular decisions, especially about the budget (similar situation with our government) .

Walker and the rest of the clowns saw their numbers dip because instead of governing they decided that it's a good time to enact a right wing ideological agenda and do things which they never mentioned on the campaign trail (eg. busting unions).
Not to mention corruption (Scott).

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It's more funny and equally superfluous.
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 06:19:39 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2011, 06:23:35 PM by cinyc »

From what I've read Malloy's numbers aren't good because he has taken some necessary but unpopular decisions, especially about the budget (similar situation with our government) .

Walker and the rest of the clowns saw their numbers dip because instead of governing they decided that it's a good time to enact a right wing ideological agenda and do things which they never mentioned on the campaign trail (eg. busting unions).
Not to mention corruption (Scott).

Malloy's numbers aren't good, in part, because he and the Democratic legislature have decided that it's a good time to enact a left-wing ideological agenda, hiking taxes across-the-board and not sufficiently cutting spending.  I'm not sure whether some of the things he's done weren't mentioned on the campaign trail because no media organization outside of the Hartford TV market part of Connecticut pays much attention to Connecticut politics.  And even some on the far-left think Malloy hasn't gone far enough in hiking taxes on the so-called rich.

I only sarcastically mentioned Walker in the original post because, as I've repeatedly said, Malloy's numbers are similar to Walker's.  In my opinion, no governor with Malloy or Walker's numbers is in extreme danger of losing a recall.   Neither is at Gray Davis levels.  Scott - who you keep on bringing up even when I have not - is close, but Florida currently doesn't have recalls for statewide officials.  And Scott's problem, like Grey Davis' is that he's pissed off his own party.  Walker and Malloy really haven't done that to as great an extent as Davis did, if at all.
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 06:35:48 PM »

From what I've read Malloy's numbers aren't good because he has taken some necessary but unpopular decisions, especially about the budget (similar situation with our government) .

Walker and the rest of the clowns saw their numbers dip because instead of governing they decided that it's a good time to enact a right wing ideological agenda and do things which they never mentioned on the campaign trail (eg. busting unions).
Not to mention corruption (Scott).

Malloy has neglected to fulfill campaign promises. He has been a let down.
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 06:51:29 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2011, 07:20:43 PM by Get Off The Cross, The Wood Is Needed »

Walker hasn't pissed off his own party. He has however pissed off basically everyone else, which is a worse spot to be in than having weak approvals because a good chunk of your own party is opposed as with Malloy. Those upset with Malloy seem to be like Napoleon because he's been too conservative for them. I doubt any of Malloy's liberal accomplishments that I read are too unpopular in Connecticut, or are disliked by many people besides people that wouldn't approve of Malloy anyway.

And arguing that a governor needs to be at Gray Davis approvals to be vulnerable to a recall is very pbrower-ish and reminiscent of his "approval plus six" rule. It also neglects that Davis' recall passed by 10 points, so he could've been better off and still lost.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2011, 11:46:30 PM »

Seriously, trying to compare Malloy's numbers with those of national jokes like Scott, Kasich and Walker is pretty asinine. 



Malloy's approvals are equal to those of Scott Walker, but they're a different kind of equal.

Well, yeah, in this case. Check out the Yankee Institute of Public Policy's web site and tell me their survey is equal to those measuring Walker's popularity.

This is an (R) poll, folks. Malloy may be unpopular but this poll was conducted and promoted by a group with an agenda that is supported by a poll showing Malloy doing badly.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 11:48:11 PM »


Cinyc, did you notice that the Yankee Institute is run by the former head of the NH GOP and has a blog full of "hey, look at this neat thing Cato posted" stuff? This is an R poll. You know better.
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2011, 01:49:25 AM »


Cinyc, did you notice that the Yankee Institute is run by the former head of the NH GOP and has a blog full of "hey, look at this neat thing Cato posted" stuff? This is an R poll. You know better.

It is as much an R poll as anything coming out of PPP is a D poll or PPP's traditional North Carolina rival, Civitas Institute, is an R poll.  

The fact is that Malloy is underwater.  Both Quinnipiac and this poll say it.  Quinnipiac had higher undecideds and was of RV.  This poll had lower undecideds and was of LV, which I suppose is more important when asking a reelect question and explains why it is slightly more anti-Malloy than an RV poll.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2011, 11:44:30 PM »

Interesting to compare YIPP to PPP. What was YIPP's track record in the various states in 2010 compared to PPP? That would help us evaluate the comparison.

We are conceding this is a partisan poll, at least.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 10:22:37 PM »
« Edited: June 29, 2011, 10:36:27 PM by Scott »

Many Democrats consider Malloy to be more of a fiscal moderate than a progressive, but I strongly disagree with that being a reason to disapprove.  He's been cutting spending and raising taxes, which, though unpopular, is how to effectively pay off the debt.  That plan involves shared sacrifice, so of course no one's going to be happy with it.  On social issues, Malloy and the legislature have made positive reforms by decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana (a step closer to full legalization- hopefully) and passing a transgender anti-discrimination bill.  As a person who generally approves of Connecticut politics and our politicians, Democrat and even Republican, I strongly believe our state is what other states and Washington should be looking at for success... not Wisconsin.
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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2011, 12:24:24 PM »

Considering that Gallup has Obama at 60% in CT, sorta surprising. (not really)
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